Trust Us 2015-01-14

[AmriloJim]

Wiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnng bonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneerrrr!

damn skippy is right

However, no evidence of an ear-ection.
Surprised this pun went unvoiced for this long -- copy of the Kinsey survey to the pun jar.

[Dave]

They are not in the original location or they would already be beginning to glow in the dark. So they are someplace else. There was no VORP, so the transporter system did not kick in. If they came through a portal they have to be in the library, or an affiliated area. I kinda doubt the library portals would cross connect so the intake became an outtake.

When they entered The Library, they entered L-space. My understanding is that L-space can fold and connect just about anywhere to anywhere. I don't find it hard at all to believe that The Library had them step through a door in Minneapolis and fall to the floor somewhere near Mapimi.

Ook.

"Let's hear it for the monkey!"

Yeah, that seems entirely possible. At the very least, the Library might simply be running two of its existing portals in "back to back" mode - step through one, you're in an infinitesimally-thin part of the library and end up immediately stepping through another portal into Elsewhere. As far as we know, nothing prevents the Library from moving its internal portal termini around in a way which would permit this.

I think we've seen the Library provide/use no less than three separate means of transportation. The annex portals are one. The "VORP" teleporter is another.

And, on at least two occasions (here and here) we've seen the Library "reach out" and pull two or more characters at once into its internal space, with no apparent light or sound effects. That may be the "VORP" teleporter in action, or may be something different.

It's clear that to the Library, 13.798 billion years of spacetime is just something which happens to somebody else

[AnotherFairportfan]

Lately every time I see Atsali I think, "Now there's a nice young lady who'd I'd be proud to be the father of. I'm not too happy about her kooky friends, however..."

Is it weird to find her mother to be far more attractive?
I'm weird, aren't I?
I'm getting too old.

I must have missed a comic or two. When did the mother show up?

Katherine

[AnotherFairportfan]

They are not in the original location or they would already be beginning to glow in the dark. So they are someplace else. There was no VORP, so the transporter system did not kick in. If they came through a portal they have to be in the library, or an affiliated area. I kinda doubt the library portals would cross connect so the intake became an outtake.

When they entered The Library, they entered L-space. My understanding is that L-space can fold and connect just about anywhere to anywhere. I don't find it hard at all to believe that The Library had them step through a door in Minneapolis and fall to the floor somewhere near Mapimi.

Ook.

Yes and no. L-space can be accessed where large masses of books accumulate. I don't see any.

[oldmanmickey]

Lately every time I see Atsali I think, "Now there's a nice young lady who'd I'd be proud to be the father of. I'm not too happy about her kooky friends, however..."

Is it weird to find her mother to be far more attractive?
I'm weird, aren't I?
I'm getting too old.

I must have missed a comic or two. When did the mother show up?

Katherine

ok sorry, i thought he was talking about her birth mother.

[Dave]

Yes and no. L-space can be accessed where large masses of books accumulate. I don't see any.

There's a FedEx Office next to that alley-way behind Chino Latino. There might be enough paper and print there to permit occasional L-space tunneling in the neighborhood?

[jwhouk]

The Library Transport System (aka VORP) is different from the Portals, which is different from Poiting.

Poiting was developed by the Lanthians to get from point A to point B, provided that they knew where point B was, and had actually been to point B. We're not quite sure about the requirements, but we do know that only the GG's, May and Monica can do it. Jin (and, presumably, May) have reached a capability level where they can "poit" seamlessly.

The Portals were how non-Lanthians got from point to point, using the Akashic records (and, once again, having to have a portal physically "be" at the new location before you could "Vorp" to the new place). The portals were similar to "poiting" in that they required DNA sequencing to activate (Etethetians, for example).

The Library Transport System has two modes: one for entry/exit (how the "annexes" were built) and one for direct transport from point A to point B. The "Vorp" is the second kind, and is used for those who can't use the other two transport modes. Theoretically, any and every being who enters the Library can end up using either mode to leave (it's presumed you are scanned upon entry, not quite as intrusively as "entity Villarreal" was when her sub-titan status was confirmed). The entry/exit system is a bit more seamless - one moment, you're in a dilapidated, abandoned building in downtown Minneapolis, the next you're in the Library stacks.

On topic: the idea that the Library could simply transport someone from their entry portal to a different exit portal actually makes sense, from a safety standpoint. If someone was doing some urban spelunking and decided to poke around in a certain abandoned hospital/nursing home, the Library could simply transport the person, as they're opening a door that they think leads to some administrative offices, to a back alley outside the parking lot of a Lund's Grocery Store in uptown Minneapolis.

As it turns out, the Library does a pretty good job of keeping people out on its own, but it still needs protectors to keep those whose intentions might be less than pure from doing something they shouldn't be doing.

This apparently doesn't apply to a certain siren and bearkin.

[TazManiac]

Lately every time I see Atsali I think, "Now there's a nice young lady who'd I'd be proud to be the father of. I'm not too happy about her kooky friends, however..."

Is it weird to find her mother to be far more attractive?
I'm weird, aren't I?
I'm getting too old.

You are not too old, and just because you'd enjoy the more mature choice of female companionship doesn't make it an invalid decision.

Sometimes these things are out of our conscious control anyway.

If it's any consolation, if Tina turns me down I'm going to be fighting you over Katherine's affections, if only in a rebound capacity...

And who said there is anything wrong with weird?

[Thor]

The nice thing about imaginary people is that we can imagine doing anything with or to them we want. We can also create imaginary versions of ourselves to be with them--versions that are younger, or smarter, or more bulletproof.

Sure a "real-life" Atsali might be waaaaay too young for most of us to consider or even appreciate, but not so for our idealized 15yo versions of ourselves. It is no shame admitting that they would be all about that.

[Grantwhy]

I was going to ask the question: What kind of entity would trust two teenagers enough to investigate a potentially very dangerous site instead of sending any of the multitude of adults it deals with on a daily basis? ..... but then I remembered what kind of adults the Library deals with on a daily basis

[illiad]

This apparently doesn't apply to a certain siren and bearkin.

well read today's comic(jan 15), you will find it does!

I was going to ask the question: What kind of entity would trust two teenagers enough to investigate a potentially very dangerous site instead of sending any of the multitude of adults it deals with on a daily basis? ..... but then I remembered what kind of adults the Library deals with on a daily basis

you need to check back a few pages... they said DO NOT go there... BUT they forgot about teen logic! if ya say dont, they will!...
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/get-in-the-car/

[AnotherFairportfan]

I was going to ask the question: What kind of entity would trust two teenagers enough to investigate a potentially very dangerous site instead of sending any of the multitude of adults it deals with on a daily basis? ..... but then I remembered what kind of adults the Library deals with on a daily basis

The Library is acting in self-defense - it already has copies of Atsali's YA adventure books, and it has to make sure she has the adventures to base it on, or she might not write them, and the paradox would give it such a pain in the closed stacks.

[Grantwhy]

I was going to ask the question: What kind of entity would trust two teenagers enough to investigate a potentially very dangerous site instead of sending any of the multitude of adults it deals with on a daily basis? ..... but then I remembered what kind of adults the Library deals with on a daily basis

you need to check back a few pages... they said DO NOT go there... BUT they forgot about teen logic! if ya say dont, they will!...
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/get-in-the-car/

I think we've crossed over our thought streams.

You're talking (I think) about the MIB, I'm talking about the Library

[Catawampus]

The nice thing about imaginary people is that we can imagine doing anything with or to them we want. We can also create imaginary versions of ourselves to be with them--versions that are younger, or smarter, or more bulletproof.

Sure a "real-life" Atsali might be waaaaay too young for most of us to consider or even appreciate, but not so for our idealized 15yo versions of ourselves. It is no shame admitting that they would be all about that.

Or you could cover all the bases and go after both generations of Gilchrists. . .

[illiad]

I think we've crossed over our thought streams.

You're talking (I think) about the MIB, I'm talking about the Library

you missed the link, that refers to Lily?? its all her fault... nothing to do with anyone else...
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/get-in-the-car/

'Adults trusting teens' is still valid... it has already been stated, **do not** tell a young teen NOT to go somewhere....

In RL, at least it is difficult for them to get long distances without suspicions being raised!!

[TazManiac]

I think we've crossed over our thought streams.

"Whatever you do, Don't Cross the Streams!"

Oh, and Catawampus?

"Or you could cover all the bases and..."



Touche'

[Yamara]

Damn, Skippy!

Almost 48 hours, and no one's made a peanut butter or a "Bush Kangaroo" joke??

[TazManiac]

Damn, Skippy!

Almost 48 hours, and no one's made a peanut butter or a "Bush Kangaroo" joke??

While I had heard (and even watched one or two eps) of Flipper, I'd never even known a smidgen of Skippy

And then, there was Gentle Ben... <--- A Bear Twins family member mayhap?

[TazManiac]

PS- Twennynine, feat. Lenny White

If you're feeling hungry
Ain't got nothin' to eat
Show me to the kitchen
Peanut butter can't be beat

[TazManiac]

PPS- (I know this should be in this thread, but Yamara awakened the Kraken in me, so Here We Go!) {Oh, and the PB links are audio clips...}

Joe Black:"I would prefer some peanut butter."
- Butler:"How would you like that sir? On some kind of toast?
- Joe Black:"Toast? No, just the butter.

- Butler:"Peanut butter man now, eh sir?"
- Joe Black:"Yes, I believe I am. I thoroughly enjoy this peanut butter."

- Susan Parrish:"What happened to that sweet guy from the coffee shop? Who are you anyway? And, what are you eating?"
- Joe Black:"Peanut butter."


And just because it's kinda on point....

Joe Black:"Thank you for the delicious cookies."