Have to Adult 2016-07-27

[AnotherFairportfan]

Aren't Geese protected by a migratory bird act or whatever? Kinda hard to sell meat of a protected species.

Domestic geese.

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Just like turkeys and chickens.

Also, i believe that goose hunting is legal, though i'm not sure.

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Yep.

[lake_wrangler]

I had forgotten about it, but yes, French Frogs is definitely in common usage, when referring to French-speaking people. I had forgot, since I don't usually use it. It is probably somewhat, slightly pejorative, but hardly.

At one point, I used to joke that I had a cousin in my throat, instead of the common "I have a frog in my throat"...

One other expression, which is dying out, as far as I know, was for English Canadians (who at the time may have been more closely tied to British roots) to call Québecois "Pea Soup", due to pea soup being a popular meal in Québec, in years past.

Oh, and the Québecois also used to call English-speaking people "blokes" (yes, that one was definitely meant to be pejorative), leading to such jokes as "What do you call an anglo with an idea? A flash cube..."
(Yeah, that is a rather old joke, by now... How many people still remember the flash cubes? )

[Akasha]

THAT'S where it come from? Frog legs taste lovely, but there's a lot of effort to fill your belly is my only complaint- I prefer rattler

Haven't ever had rattler, although I do recall having had snake meat at least once (can't remember whether it was in Australia or Africa, though).

If we're mentioning foods popular in France... after our visit there last fall, I now understand why the French are fond of duck. I'd never had it before, but after being introduced to duck confit at a little hotel's "we make one selection for dinner each night, as the chef chooses" restaurant, I'm definitely sold on it. Quite delicious. I haven't tried making confit myself, but I slow roasted a couple of ducks over the Christmas holidays and they turned out quite well.

does it "taste like chicken" ?

[DilyV]

Aren't Geese protected by a migratory bird act or whatever? Kinda hard to sell meat of a protected species.

Domestic geese.

goose.jpg

Just like turkeys and chickens.

Also, i believe that goose hunting is legal, though i'm not sure.

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Yep.

AFLAC!!!!

[DilyV]

THAT'S where it come from? Frog legs taste lovely, but there's a lot of effort to fill your belly is my only complaint- I prefer rattler

Haven't ever had rattler, although I do recall having had snake meat at least once (can't remember whether it was in Australia or Africa, though).

If we're mentioning foods popular in France... after our visit there last fall, I now understand why the French are fond of duck. I'd never had it before, but after being introduced to duck confit at a little hotel's "we make one selection for dinner each night, as the chef chooses" restaurant, I'm definitely sold on it. Quite delicious. I haven't tried making confit myself, but I slow roasted a couple of ducks over the Christmas holidays and they turned out quite well.

does it "taste like chicken" ?

No... you see the matrix didn't know what Rattler tasted like... so they figured it tasted like chicken, which is why everything tasted like chicken...

[DilyV]

Love the hair Kath!!! That hole in the wall? Not so much.

[lake_wrangler]

Verbing weirds language.

--FreeFlier

It really inanes things, doesn't it...

[jwhouk]

They don't seem to mind being called "Habs" - at least, not in Montreal.

[donoho]

Soooo Muuuch THIS.

[FreeFlier]

Aren't Geese protected by a migratory bird act or whatever? Kinda hard to sell meat of a protected species.

Domestic geese.

goose.jpg

Just like turkeys and chickens.

Also, i believe that goose hunting is legal, though i'm not sure.

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Yep.

Domestic geese can be sold under US law, but wild geese cannot.

However, the hunter who legally took a wild goose is expected to eat it.

--FreeFlier

[lake_wrangler]

They don't seem to mind being called "Habs" - at least, not in Montreal.

That, actually, is the nickname for the players on the Montreal Canadiens NHL hockey team. (Habs being short for Habitants, a term that used to describe early French settlers.)

Habitants were French settlers and the inhabitants of French origin who farmed the land along the two shores of the St. Lawrence Gulf and River in what is the present-day Province of Quebec in Canada. The term was used by the inhabitants themselves and the other classes of French Canadian society from the 17th century up until the early 20th century when the usage of the word declined in favour of the more modern agriculteur (farmer) or producteur agricole (agricultural producer).

[Dave]

Verbing weirds language.

--FreeFlier

It really inanes things, doesn't it...

President Gerund Ford might have disagreed with you. He believed that pardoning Richard Nixon was the best thing for the country (and Nixon was definitely weird and often inane).

[Dave]

does it "taste like chicken" ?

Duck leg confit is closer to turkey than to chicken... about halfway between the taste of turkey white meat and dark meat. It's rubbed with a mixture of salt and herbs, marinated in this for a day or so, then slow roasted in duck fat until almost-falling-apart tender. Dee-lish!

Duck breast is firm in texture and "meaty" in flavor. We had it on a deluxe pizza in Cajarc the day after we had confit at Hotel La Peyraud. Different but equally good.

No... you see the matrix didn't know what Rattler tasted like... so they figured it tasted like chicken, which is why everything tasted like chicken...

Well, birds are avian dinosaurs, descended from reptiles, and snakes are descended from lizards. The basic protein arrangements are probably pretty much in common. A couple of years ago someone managed to recover some protein fragments from exceptionally-well-preserved dinosaur fossils, and determined that they're more similar to modern bird proteins than to lizard or alligator.

So, even T. Rex may have treated like chicken. Given its diet it might have tasted more like vulture or crow. Or perhaps like loon? This might account for its success as an apex predator... it'd have been too tough for anything else to eat.

[Catawampus]

Nice haircut. But why dye the grey lock? It looked good on her.

Don't worry, I'm sure that there are many more gray hairs in her future. Assuming that she doesn't simply go bald from pulling her hair.

I've heard some people call French or French-speakers "frogs."

I don't know if this is derogatory/offensive, and if it is, I have no idea how severe it is, so I just avoid it.

It's generally considered rude but not terribly offensive, though a lot depends on just how and when it is used.

As has been pointed out, it's a food-based slang used by the British against people from France or Belgium or the Netherlands or that general area. Through the 18th and 19th Centuries, the British tended to often be at conflict with their neighbours across the Channel (the Anglo-Dutch Wars, the Seven Year War, the Napoleonic Wars, and so on). They called those neighbours "frog-eaters" or just "frogs" as an insult, implying that they lived in a swamp and also just had really weird culinary tastes. And the British were in turn called "roast beefs", due to the supposed or actual British obsession with that particular dish. It's pretty much the same as calling Germans "krauts".

France used to require all automobiles driving in their country to have special yellow headlights. They were very strict on that, which meant that even during joint military exercises with other nations' armies any foreign military would have to purchase the special lights for their vehicles to drive on French roads. Which greatly annoyed all of the non-French soldiers. The reason given for the special lights was that they were supposed to give better vision in foggy conditions. They were fog-lights. Thus, everybody took to calling them "frog-lights". Which greatly annoyed all of the French soldiers.

[jwhouk]

They don't seem to mind being called "Habs" - at least, not in Montreal.

That, actually, is the nickname for the players on the Montreal Canadiens NHL hockey team. (Habs being short for Habitants, a term that used to describe early French settlers.)

Habitants were French settlers and the inhabitants of French origin who farmed the land along the two shores of the St. Lawrence Gulf and River in what is the present-day Province of Quebec in Canada. The term was used by the inhabitants themselves and the other classes of French Canadian society from the 17th century up until the early 20th century when the usage of the word declined in favour of the more modern agriculteur (farmer) or producteur agricole (agricultural producer).

(pauses a moment to let the Francophone remember who he's talking to... maybe dropping a subtle hint of a gold-colored jersey with the number "76" on it...)

[lake_wrangler]

(pauses a moment to let the Francophone remember who he's talking to... maybe dropping a subtle hint of a gold-colored jersey with the number "76" on it...)

That won't help... I don't watch sports, and that includes hockey. I have no idea whose jersey that would be, although I now get that you are indeed most likely well versed in hockey lore, from the tone of that last statement...

[illiad]

So is Kath about to trip over a feline para boy still sitting on the ground staring at her older daughter's wet cleavage?

Nah...

Kath 'thinks' " gawd, I remember when I was SO young, and a boy would just sit there staring at me.... :p "

[illiad]

It's a culinary slur Glytch, that the french would eat amphibians because of their trashy tastes.

...huh. Well, I guess I'll keep avoiding it.

Eating frog legs is trashy? I never would have thought of that on my own. Possibly because I think much classier foods like... I dunno, lobster or crab... Seems much more weird. I honestly wouldn't eat a lobster unless it was a survival situation.

How is eating a creepy sea bug trashier than eating a frog?

People are weird.

well, frogs legs are just like a small chicken.. at the 'boring' end of eclectic tastes... :E
Not tried kangaroo, horse (sold at respectable butchers all over France) , octopus or squid ?? (its called 'calamari' to not frighten some McDonalds eaters..
Haven't you had prawns , scampi, shrimp?? they are basically a smaller version of lobster...
and very prone to naming differences across the world...

[illiad]

Aren't Geese protected by a migratory bird act or whatever? Kinda hard to sell meat of a protected species.

I think that is to protect *wild* geese.. you can find goose for eating in most places,. coming from a proper farm..

[Dave]

Aren't Geese protected by a migratory bird act or whatever? Kinda hard to sell meat of a protected species.

I think that is to protect *wild* geese.. you can find goose for eating in most places,. coming from a proper farm..

The Federal Migratory Bird Protection Act covers almost all birds found in the US (there are a few exceptions, such as feral pigeons, starlings, and other "pest" birds, and some upland game birds.) It's illegal to kill, capture, transport, or offer-for-sale such birds without a Federal permit.

Many species of wild goose and duck (and others) are in a subset called "migratory game birds". These birds can be hunted, in accordance with Federal and state regulations. There are bag limits, open and closed seasons, restrictions on how and where you can hunt them, and a requirement that each hunter buy and sign and carry a "Migratory Bird Hunting and Conservation Stamp (Federal Duck Stamp)" which is, in effect, a Federal permit to hunt these birds.

FreeFlier is correct - a hunter who shoots at a wild goose is required to retrieve the bird, tag, transport, and consume it (personally or in-family). Shooting at birds "for sport" and wasting the bodies is not legal. Neither is shooting it on your license and then selling it, I believe. You''re not allowed to possess a wild game bird shot by someone else unless the original shooter has tagged it properly (I believe this is to prevent hunters from shooting more than their bag limit, and then claiming that "Oh, my friend shot this one").

Farm-raised geese and ducks are treated like farm-raised chickens and turkeys... they aren't wild, or migratory.