Snort 2015-01-23

[AnotherFairportfan]

It'll get her kicked out of a few bars and make here a welcomed hero at others.

She, Shelly and Jet will be a known and respected (or else) team.

Considering that she's sorta the adoptive niece of Aaron Sullivan's granddaughter, she'd be likely to find a welcome in at least one bar.

I thought of that, too - but it didn't fit with the shtick, so i didn't mention it.

Wonder if Monica ever goes back to hang out?

[AmriloJim]

Considering that she's sorta the adoptive niece of Aaron Sullivan's granddaughter, she'd be likely to find a welcome in at least one bar.

That'd be Sally's.

[Cortanis]

Money says the skull has a dislocated jaw at the minimum.

Also to note. Is that smoke or "steam" from the snort? If it's smoke, possibly her father's side finally shining through?

[Cortanis]

The first three panels bring back memories...

Atsli is at least part sphinx. . .or at least acts just like a sphinx in reflex combat mode. . .

I'd like to say something right here in regards to her species classification. Atsali is constantly referred to as a siren... anyone else capable of doing a more through reference be my guest, but for the moment we'll just hit the Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(myt ... Appearance

That being brought up, Atsali sports a heritage of a sea god, at least in a distant sense, an Incubus, and her mother was a siren. That's actually quite the family tree in its own right. Just between the male demon and the sea god, we could see quite the interesting possibility of a variety of latent powers and physical features. We also know that she's going through puberty and that's apparently the time that a large amount of powers start manifesting in such stories.

[lake_wrangler]

There is another possible explanation of the age thing. Given who her daddy is she could have done something long ago much like bia and have gotten a time out or a reset like Bia did.

Except that in Bia's case, she still remembers all that she did prior to being "rejuvenated", while Tsillah does not give off that kind of vibe.

[lake_wrangler]

What Tisallah told Shelly and Justin is misleading. We cannot assume she is in high school from that comment. Now her appearance does contribute a lot towards thinking she is very young but that is a shadow image she presents to others.

Never assume anything, becasue when you do, you make an ASS of U and ME...
Having said that, I still think that High-School is implied, both by her demeanor (bubble-headedness, speech pattern, etc) and her attire and the stuff she carries
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/crazy-meter/
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/sage-of-the-forest/

Also, the phrasing of the statement "I heard about you at school" followed immediately by "'I'm growing my hair out like yours" indicate, to me, concurrency (at school, because she's still going there), recent happening (she learned about the sage of the forest recently enough to impress her and to cause her to grow her hair out - instead of something like "when I heard that, that's when I started growing my hair out like yours"). Also, that kind of curriculum sounds like the general history curriculum one might find in a (paranormal) high-school.

And yes, this is her shadow, yet that last link also shows her "true" self form which mimics her shadow, and we see it again on the next page ( http://wapsisquare.com/comic/stevens-door/ )

Not only that, but we also have the interchange between Tsillah and the vampires:
But... you're a little girl. Where's the creepy supermodel?
My daddy always said to make an awesome first impression and it'll speak of your character and fortitude. But, I don't really like scaring people... Unless, of course, I absolutely have to do so. (Implied: that was not my true form, this is - inasmuch as it's really a shadow of her true form...)
The continued conversation between them ("You're funny", and so on) seem to convey youth, as well.


Another example is where she imitates Lily Tomlin's telephone operator, but then reverts right back to "her" own form...

She does not say what school she is in on what she is learning. While it could be high school it could also be college, contining adult education. It could be training to take a higher level position in MIB.

The vibe she gives off is that of a teenager, as far as I'm concerned. If it was MIB training, either she just started, or they are not doing a very good job, as she has not been very efficient and/or tactful in her actions...

We don't know. From the comments I think it is safe to assume the mom is the common element for Nudge and Tisallah.

I don't think we can even assume that. From all we've seen, there is no mention at all as to whether they are full sisters or half-sisters. They share similar face markings, yet have different attributes (one is goat-like, one is made of shadow), just like two siblings can have some common traits, yet have different traits as well.

How far apart they are we don't know. We do know that nudge was out and about on her own a long time ago as she had been locked up in the library by other gods. While mom may have shared stories I think the wording Tisalliah used would be different if she had only been told about the baths. "Mom always said you hated those baths." type of wording.

Not necessarily. She implies knowing about the fear (And you exposed her to that fear. You forced her to experience that fear?, and She chose Nudge's worst fear. She has the mind of a sociopath but the heart of a lion ), but there is no need, in that scene, for her to explain why or how she knows. She merely knows.

However, the familiarity expressed by Tsillah does show that she had spent time with Nudge in the past, in my opinion (Hey, Sis! All better?)

This does bring up one interesting thing: we know that Monica's accident with the bus happened some 15 years ago, and that's when Nudge started inhabiting Tina. That would mean that even though Tsillah is indeed young (as far as I'm concerned), she would have to be more than 15, in order to have known Nudge personally. Yet she does not give off the impression of being older than 15 (or, at least, not old enough past 15 to have known Nudge enough to be that familiar with her.)

So our favorite doofus and mistress of lack of tact is a lot older than we think.

Maybe, maybe not. I think it's only safe to say that her age is... unknown, at this time...

She's just never grown up mentally.

I think that is a given...

[Warrl]

I don't think Tsillah *has* a "true form" in the usual sense. She simply has a form she prefers when manifesting as a human, and currently that form is a somewhat ditzy-looking teenager. She CAN manifest in any form that creates a shadow.

As for her age... no idea. She's been given some authority in MIB, as I recall, so I doubt that she really is as young and immature as she seems. But I have no basis for anything more specific. She could be 20, or predate the Lanthians, or pretty much any plausible number in between.

Heck, with the timey-wimey stuff that goes on in this comic, she could have been born 80,000 years ago and lived for 15 years.

[Sidhekin]

Heck, with the timey-wimey stuff that goes on in this comic, she could have been born 80,000 years ago and lived for 15 years.

I don't see that kind of timey-wimey stuff in WS (time tends to pass, backwards or forwards, at a rate of 60 seconds per minute), but really, it would explain Tsillah.

[illiad]

I don't think Tsillah *has* a "true form" in the usual sense. She simply has a form she prefers when manifesting as a human, and currently that form is a somewhat ditzy-looking teenager. She CAN manifest in any form that creates a shadow.

As for her age... no idea. She's been given some authority in MIB, as I recall, so I doubt that she really is as young and immature as she seems. But I have no basis for anything more specific. She could be 20, or predate the Lanthians, or pretty much any plausible number in between.

Heck, with the timey-wimey stuff that goes on in this comic, she could have been born 80,000 years ago and lived for 15 years.

The flow of time in the library is most likely very different to earth, etc... The 'time forest' runs opposite to earth's' time, but a bit like narnia, no time has passed when you get back!!

Have you ever tried to make shadow shapes by moving your hands in funny ways??
Tsillah is a shadow being.. she make *physical* shapes by magically manipulating her 'shadow body' !

I would bet the 'college' she talks about is 'how to look human'... As for 'age' , I guess that is part of college... she prefers the look! (and the time scale...)

Of course, WS time is different to earth time! this last *seven days* was actually only about 5 minutes, comic time...

[shadowinthelight]

I've always thought this is probably the closest we've seen to Tsilla's true form.

[Gyrrakavian]

Tsillah is the daughter of at least one extremely powerful (presumably immortal) mythic being, and her position with the Library and MIB suggests that she's growing up in an atmosphere of power and privilege. You could perhaps consider Tsillah to be like a rich politician's kid... a bit sheltered, a bit of a brat, and used to being allowed to have her own way.

She's interning with MiB to get some of that "real world" experience, and it's working about as well as it usually does with rich kids who intern in the family business offices or the offices of their parents' good friends' corporations...

There is another possible explanation of the age thing. Given who her daddy is she could have done something long ago much like bia and have gotten a time out or a reset like Bia did.

Hadn't thought of that. Could very well be the case.

[lake_wrangler]

I just had a somewhat amusing thought: I just noticed her shadow on the wall, and thought that the shadow in the last panel looks a lot like caricatures of the alien from the Alien movie...

[Sidhekin]

I just had a somewhat amusing thought: I just noticed her shadow on the wall, and thought that the shadow in the last panel looks a lot like caricatures of the alien from the Alien movie...

I laughed¹. Thanks.

¹) Out loud, literally.

[Grantwhy]

I don't think Tsillah *has* a "true form" in the usual sense. She simply has a form she prefers when manifesting as a human, and currently that form is a somewhat ditzy-looking teenager. She CAN manifest in any form that creates a shadow.

I've always thought this is probably the closest we've seen to Tsilla's true form.

Well, if Tsillah's words to Lily and Suzie are to be believe, we may have seen her 'true form'

http://wapsisquare.com/comic/over-our-heads/



So ..... when Atsali punched Tsillah, did she:

• (a) punch Tsillah's shadow (what *we* see as Tsillah) and somehow affect her actual form
  . or
  (b) punch Tsillah's actual form and what we saw was her reaction via *her* shadow

I'm going to guess (b), if only for the follow-up "how the heck could Atsali do that" question it leads to

[illiad]

non, no, no.... Humans have a physical form, that makes a shadow... they can change this by moving their body about in front of any light source...

now turn all that on it head, you have Tsillah, who is the inverse... she IS a shadow, that by magic and manipulating shadow, creates a *physical* body!

here you can see it 'melting away'...

[DilyV]

non, no, no.... Humans have a physical form, that makes a shadow... they can change this by moving their body about in front of any light source...

now turn all that on it head, you have Tsillah, who is the inverse... she IS a shadow, that by magic and manipulating shadow, creates a *physical* body!

here you can see it 'melting away'...

I've said it before and I really think this is the case with Tsillah... She is shadow in her normal state, however she can manifest herself into solid matter to interact with the world around her. Remember, she picked Monica up in the strip "Their Dignity". A shadow wouldn't have been able to do that (or shouldn't have... this IS after all the Wapsi universe). Tsillah takes on a solid form to interact with the world around her and in that form should be able to be interacted with. Her daddy is the demon Charon, so maybe Tsillah can only be acted upon by other demons or demon spawn. Could it be a self defense mechanism that anyone else attacking her triggers a change back to her shadow side to avoid the strike, but other demons might not trigger the defense? I'm sure there's an explanation coming up soon...

I'm wondering more what or who the skelly was that Atsali just trounced.

EDIT: Oh yeah... and it seems that this is sort of a quest for Nadette too... to face her own fears and emerge stronger for it...

[Sidhekin]

demon Charon

Say what?

[AnotherFairportfan]

Might as well be a demon - Greek myth identified him as the sone of Erebus and Nyx, who were described as the first-born primordial god offspring of Chaos.

Interestingly, Wikipedia says that "Erebus" means darkness or shadow...

[jwhouk]

Well, remember, an incubus is considered in some mythos to be a demon, so technically Atsali is a demon-spawn.

I can see it now:

Atsali: "Wait, YOU'RE Tsillah's father?"
Charon: "Yeah. Don't worry, you're not in trouble for that right hook you gave her. I'm actually impressed. Only saw that happen one other time."
Atsali: "When was that?"
Charon: "One of my assistants were trying to collect the soul of what we thought was a dead incubus. Dang thing gave him a roundhouse kick and knocked his skull into the Pacific. Mind you, he was in Greece at the time..."
Atsali: "Wait, what?"

[Gavote]

Jwhouk: Well played! I couldn't stop laughing after reading your post for almost five minutes! Thanks, I needed that!