The Wrong Person 2013-11-25

[shadowinthelight]

Uh, Monica, you have a little something growing on your waist there.

Who's got the cake for DilyV?

[meisdadoo]

Half-human, one-quarter thornbush, the rest Kudzu?

and 100% cute.

[MerchManDan]

If Castela knows her as Aunt Monica, then it is likely that Astali also knows her, just not as The Jaguar Girl. So instead of meeting a rock star, Sali will just be talking with someone she already knows who is just a little more than she thought she was.

Good point. Kathy does not know Monica is the Jaguar girl, or I think we can assume she doesn't. Sali at least has no idea that they are talking about Monica. So I expect Sali's jaw to hit the floor when she realizes that Monica is the Jaguar girl.

Well, I don't know about this. Castela herself called Mon a celebrity; how could she know about Mon being the Jaguar Girl, if Atsali & Kath don't know it? Or (the more likely option) is Mon paranormally famous for some other reason that I can't recall right now?

[Fairportfan]

If Castela knows her as Aunt Monica, then it is likely that Astali also knows her, just not as The Jaguar Girl. So instead of meeting a rock star, Sali will just be talking with someone she already knows who is just a little more than she thought she was.

Good point. Kathy does not know Monica is the Jaguar girl, or I think we can assume she doesn't. Sali at least has no idea that they are talking about Monica. So I expect Sali's jaw to hit the floor when she realizes that Monica is the Jaguar girl.

Well, I don't know about this. Castela herself called Mon a celebrity; how could she know about Mon being the Jaguar Girl, if Atsali & Kath don't know it? Or (the more likely option) is Mon paranormally famous for some other reason that I can't recall right now?

Calendar machine?

Being Shelly's friend?

Demon Shepherd?

Keeper of the Golems?

[themadkansan]

Well, I don't know about this. Castela herself called Mon a celebrity; how could she know about Mon being the Jaguar Girl, if Atsali & Kath don't know it? Or (the more likely option) is Mon paranormally famous for some other reason that I can't recall right now?

My bet: One of the Trickster sisters quietly spilled the beans to the little cruise-missile in private and then pointed her in the right general direction.

[Sidhekin]

Shall we enumerate the poor girl's paranormal claims to fame?

1 The Keeper of the Chimera
2 The One that Ended the Time Loop
3a The Demon Shepherd (variation of the below?)
3b The Demon Wrangler (variation of the above?)
4 The Jaguar Girl

Did I miss any?

[MerchManDan]

Calendar machine?

Being Shelly's friend?

Demon Shepherd?

Keeper of the Golems?

I recall all those, of course, but it doesn't seem likely that the paranormal world knows Mon for these things but does NOT know she's the Jaguar Girl too. I don't mean to seem argumentative or contrary, but this just isn't "clicking" for me.

[Aleister Crow]

One of the first things Euryale mentioned when they met was Monica stopping the time loops. So that's no secret, and that was well before the Jaguar Girl was ever mentioned.

[Sidhekin]

I don't know about "the paranormal world", but Pickle's source for info on M is Kath: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/like-heroes/

She knows the old stuff, but she might just be unaware of the jaguar-girl stuff. Or at least, unaware of the implications.

[MerchManDan]

Alright alright, I surrender. *sigh* Probably I'm just looking at the situation too closely, or I'm misreading what Castela is saying. Or both.

[DilyV]

One of the first things Euryale mentioned when they met was Monica stopping the time loops. So that's no secret, and that was well before the Jaguar Girl was ever mentioned.

I could be mistaken, but wasn't the Jaguar Girl mentioned well before the arc where Monica was formally recognized as the Jaguar Girl. I'm just not sure Monica was mentioned as the Jaguar Girl before the Library recognized her as such.

[Sidhekin]

Heh. We don't know what Kath knows, nor who told the kids about the Jaguar Girl, nor if the kids have been told Monica is the Jaguar Girl, nor even if Atsali has ever met Monica.

Aside from noting what we don't know, and what presumably related things we do know ... we're just speculating. Surrender not accepted.

[Sidhekin]

One of the first things Euryale mentioned when they met was Monica stopping the time loops. So that's no secret, and that was well before the Jaguar Girl was ever mentioned.

I could be mistaken, but wasn't the Jaguar Girl mentioned well before the arc where Monica was formally recognized as the Jaguar Girl. I'm just not sure Monica was mentioned as the Jaguar Girl before the Library recognized her as such.

The Jaguar was a central motif (notably at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/whatsthedeal/ and then at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/talkingwiththedead/ and the following six strips), but if the Jaguar Girl was mentioned, I missed it.

[My2Cents]

Both Pickle and Atsali know Monica and Shelly. I suspect that Bud and Kathryn introduced Pickle and Atsali to Monica and Shelly when Kathryn brought them home.

Pickle doesn't hesitate to refer to them as her aunties. She is a little kid, so she can just say things that would get someone older in trouble, and naturally expects to be the center of attention.
Atsali immediately identified Monica as the Jaguar Girl, so she knows them both as well. Unlike Pickle she is at the age where the instincts seem to be adult attention = I am in trouble, more than anything she wants to stay below their radar. Then add in her insecurity problems (I am a Siren = I am a bad girl) (I am a freak with huge boobs) and a certain amount of hero worship (I am not worthy) and you have the usual teenage mess.

The solution might to be for Atsali to meet and talk with Monica in a neutral setting. Have Kathryn announce that she has to attend a conference out of town and Monica has volunteered to baby sit. Then Monica can ask Atsali if she can check her homework and get a conversation started on a safe(r) subject. Then casually work in something like “you’re still binding them to tight”, followed by a recounting of her problem with the minimizer as a humorous story of her youth while Atsali is still tongue tied trying to come up with a way to change the subject. Hopefully that will be enough to get them both to open up on the subject.

[Sidhekin]

Atsali immediately identified Monica as the Jaguar Girl, so she knows them both as well.

Where was that? In her latest scene, Monica was not mentioned (other than as Jaguar Girl), and I don't recall either name coming up in dialogue with Atsali before.

[Fairportfan]

The Jaguar was a central motif (notably at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/whatsthedeal/ and then at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/talkingwiththedead/ and the following six strips), but if the Jaguar Girl was mentioned, I missed it.

Well, Wossname - Georgette's co-ordinator demon* - knew about Jaguar Girls in a generic sense.

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* "Guidance", i see.

[Fairportfan]

Atsali immediately identified Monica as the Jaguar Girl, so she knows them both as well.

Where was that? In her latest scene, Monica was not mentioned (other than as Jaguar Girl), and I don't recall either name coming up in dialogue with Atsali before.

Well, "Jaguar Girl" certainly rings a bell with Atsali, anyway.

[Sidhekin]

Atsali immediately identified Monica as the Jaguar Girl, so she knows them both as well.

Where was that? In her latest scene, Monica was not mentioned (other than as Jaguar Girl), and I don't recall either name coming up in dialogue with Atsali before.

Well, "Jaguar Girl" certainly rings a bell with Atsali, anyway.

Sure, but I see no indication there that "Jaguar Girl" is identified as Monica. Bud had told her she needs to meet "the Jaguar Girl". "Monica" was not mentioned.

[Sidhekin]

The Jaguar was a central motif (notably at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/whatsthedeal/ and then at http://wapsisquare.com/comic/talkingwiththedead/ and the following six strips), but if the Jaguar Girl was mentioned, I missed it.

Well, Wossname - Georgette's co-ordinator demon* - knew about Jaguar Girls in a generic sense.

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* "Guidance", i see.

Ah, yeah. I meant "mentioned in the comic". I could have been more clear.

The "Jaguar Girl" was clearly known to demons, as you point out. Shelly may also have been aware of the concept; she certainly speaks as if with authority on the subject. And if Shelly knew, the entire paranormal community may well have known.

But if I recall correctly, the mundane readers did not.

[jwhouk]

Like Heroes
Finish My Lesson

We only know from these that Castela has met Monica and Shelly. (Shelly gave her a corn husk doll.) Nothing about Monica and Atsali ever meeting - though it's insinuated that Kath has told them both about Monica (and working with her).