Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by DilyV » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:07 am

I like da Bears... they seem to be the quintessential good cop/bad cop. Or each consisting of half of a whole personality. Berdine got the rough, loud, coarse in your face side, Nadette for the soft, calm, cool and collected logical side. Kinda like the two sides of Captain Kirk that got split in the Transporter accident...

Nadette is the right person to be telling this story methinks...
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by meisdadoo » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:09 am

Dave wrote:
shadowinthelight wrote:
Mark N wrote:Would that mean that all en-souled beings would share a common heritage in that way? :shock:
Absoulutely.

*drops a 1961 vinyl copy of Heart and Soul by the Cleftones into the Pun Jar*
This idea, if correct, would finally explain a very strange scene I remember seeing in a "Beanie, and Cecil the Sea-Sick Sea Serpent" TV cartoon many decades ago, in which they encounter a pair of shoes which were tap-dancing across the ocean floor and chanting "Fillet of soul! Fillet of soul!" If souls can adapt to fit into any sort of ensouled being, then obviously souls must have no skeletons... no bones about it!

(Places a copy of "The Collected Works of Bob Clampett" into the Pun Jar)
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by illiad » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:36 am

eee wrote:
kingklash wrote:"...Just as much of a girl as you and I are." Important words for 'Stela to hear right now.

And, now it's Story Time! I love Story Time!
Well, yes, no, and maybe on Castela hearing that. The problem is, there's a huge Damocles Sword hanging over Pickle; that is that she popped the head off a Fairy. As long as she thinks of them as bugs and her enemies, that's not a bother to her. Once she realizes she KILLED another person... Psychological trauma time. She needs to be eased into that. Making the point that Calista's as much of a girl as either of them, might bring on the guilt too soon... :(
Well, hands up anyone that *remembers everything* they did from 6 months old... I am quite sure many cannot remember truly awful, 'almost killed self' things... :o :o

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Jabberwonky » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:01 pm

Mark N wrote:Now this one I did not need to look up. A reference to Judaic folklore about where the human soul is from. The creators of Neon Genesis Evangelion also borrowed it.
And 'The Seventh Sign'.
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Aleister Crow » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:29 pm

Anyone else get the feeling this story is not going to end with "and they lived happily ever after"?
Whoever coined the phrase "more fun than a barrel of monkeys" obviously never spent an afternoon cramming the little buggers into one.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by eee » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:44 pm

illiad wrote:
eee wrote:
kingklash wrote:"...Just as much of a girl as you and I are." Important words for 'Stela to hear right now.

And, now it's Story Time! I love Story Time!
Well, yes, no, and maybe on Castela hearing that. The problem is, there's a huge Damocles Sword hanging over Pickle; that is that she popped the head off a Fairy. As long as she thinks of them as bugs and her enemies, that's not a bother to her. Once she realizes she KILLED another person... Psychological trauma time. She needs to be eased into that. Making the point that Calista's as much of a girl as either of them, might bring on the guilt too soon... :(
Well, hands up anyone that *remembers everything* they did from 6 months old... I am quite sure many cannot remember truly awful, 'almost killed self' things... :o :o
But this isn't a half buried memory. Castela has indicated - once when talking to Tina on the Island, and just now - that she remembers killing the Fairy quite well. She simply assigned all the weight to it that slapping a mosquito would have to a human. Or killing a vampire used to have to Phix. But if you find out your assessment of the slappee is wrong, and the mosquito / vampire / Fairy may be admirable and something that has as much right to live as you do... Well, that can cause a revision in thought. And quite possibly, a lot of remorse.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Dave » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:40 pm

Aleister Crow wrote:Anyone else get the feeling this story is not going to end with "and they lived happily ever after"?
I'd be happy with it ending up somewhere in the same territory as Emma Bull's marvelous "Silver or Gold".

"They didn't live happily ever after, for nothing lives forever; but they as long as was right..."

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Post by Sgt. Howard » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:57 pm

Forget unit mascot- now my wife wants to adopt her... I try to point out the dificulties (like the danger factor) and she reminds me that I consider C-4 a fun toy to play with
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by TazManiac » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:09 pm

K. D.,

What comes to mind is Venn Diagrams, (it just so happens to have been a recent Google Doodle; http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&s ... 3568&hl=en)Image

Overlap, yes, but separate areas as well. Helps to address the Multi-Pantheon, 'Many Heavens' situation.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by kingklash » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:05 pm

eee wrote:
kingklash wrote:"...Just as much of a girl as you and I are." Important words for 'Stela to hear right now.

And, now it's Story Time! I love Story Time!
Well, yes, no, and maybe on Castela hearing that. The problem is, there's a huge Damocles Sword hanging over Pickle; that is that she popped the head off a Fairy. As long as she thinks of them as bugs and her enemies, that's not a bother to her. Once she realizes she KILLED another person... Psychological trauma time. She needs to be eased into that. Making the point that Calista's as much of a girl as either of them, might bring on the guilt too soon... :(
I'm hoping it's sort of a "Hear me now, and listen to me later." kind of thing here.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Timotheus » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:54 pm

The Maguffin is an essential element in any story to ensure the characters stay in line and play their parts. In this way it can be considered the heart and soul of any tale.
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by sheik » Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:26 pm

I have to wonder now if Castela has been motivated by some kind of race memory. It seems her kind was savagely assaulted by the Fae.
Judging from Calista's present state I'd say the Fae got what they deserved on all counts.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by My2Cents » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:57 pm

DilyV wrote:I like da Bears... they seem to be the quintessential good cop/bad cop. Or each consisting of half of a whole personality. Berdine got the rough, loud, coarse in your face side, Nadette for the soft, calm, cool and collected logical side. Kinda like the two sides of Captain Kirk that got split in the Transporter accident...

Nadette is the right person to be telling this story methinks...
Nadette is also a seer. She may not have known about the Fae and the Guf up until just now, and it is her seer side talking.
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by My2Cents » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:07 pm

jwhouk wrote:Remember: in Wapsi Square, there's always truth to the stories, but it's not always the truth you think.
Actually the quote is "All mythology has a kernal of truth, and the original is much worse." http://wapsisquare.com/comic/a-few-favors/
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Warrl » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:07 pm

Timotheus wrote:The Maguffin is an essential element in any story to ensure the characters stay in line and play their parts. In this way it can be considered the heart and soul of any tale.
An essential characteristic of a true maguffin is that it doesn't really matter what it is. For example, you could take The Maltese Falcon, swap out one small statue for another, and produce The Cretan Taurus. Nothing else would have to change, and the story would be the same.

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by My2Cents » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:09 pm

sheik wrote:I have to wonder now if Castela has been motivated by some kind of race memory. It seems her kind was savagely assaulted by the Fae.
Judging from Calista's present state I'd say the Fae got what they deserved on all counts.
Read back, Castela doesn't have a race, she was made! First, last, and probably only one of her kind.
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by My2Cents » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:23 pm

What if the Chamber of Guf didn't contain souls, but (personal) demons?

Maybe having demons like Doubt is what having a soul means?

But even if it doesn’t, Calista, we are now told, has a soul. This is something Monica needs to know.
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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Warrl » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:25 pm

My2Cents wrote:
sheik wrote:I have to wonder now if Castela has been motivated by some kind of race memory. It seems her kind was savagely assaulted by the Fae.
Judging from Calista's present state I'd say the Fae got what they deserved on all counts.
Read back, Castela doesn't have a race, she was made! First, last, and probably only one of her kind.
Hypothetically, she could be "made from ____________________________" and thus have racial memories - perhaps from several species.

The big question, though, is how did a uryuom egg get from the EGS universe to the Wapsi universe? Also, why did someone think it would be a good idea to put a mixture of plant and animal material in it?

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Elvis » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:41 pm

Warrl wrote:The big question, though, is how did a uryuom egg get from the EGS universe to the Wapsi universe? Also, why did someone think it would be a good idea to put a mixture of plant and animal material in it?
I have always seen the Bibliotheki as a doorway between dimensions. Connected to the library of lord dream and Unseen University. Oh, and we only need to find the Tedd of the Wapsiverse to get an answer (and hope it is not Lord Tedd)

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Re: Strange Doorway 2014-08-04

Post by Yamara » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:42 pm

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I'm not your only friend
But I'm a little glowing friend
But really I'm not actually your friend
But I am


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