For that matter, how many lakes are there in the British Lake District?
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:02 am
by FreeFlier
Five, though technically Michigan and Huron are joined . . . but in the ordinary sense there are five.
Many?
/checks wikipedia/ Oh.
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Technically one - bassenthwaite Lake. The others are traditionally meres, tarns or waters.
--FreeFlier
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:36 am
by Typeminer
+/- enough to fill the Albert Hall?
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:28 pm
by AnotherFairportfan
FreeFlier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:02 am
Five, though technically Michigan and Huron are joined . . . but in the ordinary sense there are five.
Many?
/checks wikipedia/ Oh.
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Technically one - bassenthwaite Lake. The others are traditionally meres, tarns or waters.
--FreeFlier
Yep
Hydrologically, Michigan/Huron is one lake, with a narrow {well, 3-1/2 miles wide} neck connecting the two lobes at the Mackinac Strait, where at different times the water may flow between the two in one direction or the other, unlike with two true lakes connected by a river, as the others are.
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:21 pm
by FreeFlier
Once you asked the question, my test awareness kicked in . . . nobody asks questions like that unless the answer is not what you expect.
What's the deadliest shipwreck on record?
--FreeFlier
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:42 am
by lake_wrangler
FreeFlier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:21 pm
Once you asked the question, my test awareness kicked in . . . nobody asks questions like that unless the answer is not what you expect.
What's the deadliest shipwreck on record?
--FreeFlier
In the Great Lakes?
No idea if it's the deadliest, but I know this one made it into a song...
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:54 am
by lake_wrangler
More on the subject of the Edmund Fitzgerald:
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:59 am
by lake_wrangler
Another documentary on the Edmund Fitzgerald, this one containing recordings of communications from that night.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 am
by Alkarii
My brother's father in law was on duty as a radio operator in the military the night that ship sank. I'd also been to one of the light houses up there, and one of them had one of the life rings from that ship on display.
FreeFlier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:21 pm . . . What's the deadliest shipwreck on record? . . .
In the Great Lakes?
I actually meant worldwide, but in the lakes also works, just with a different answer.
lake_wrangler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:42 amNo idea if it's the deadliest, but I know this one made it into a song...
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Nope - 29 dead. Not even close. Squaring the death toll would be about right.
--FreeFlier
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:31 pm
by AnotherFairportfan
Hmmm - the excursion boat that capsized in the Chicago River {which, BTW, was mostly loaded with Czech/Bohemian employees of Chicago Edison ...where my grandfather was a senior electrician}?
Well - the SS Eastland disaster referenced above killed 844...
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Regarding the Fitzgerald - as i recall, when they raised her,. they discovered that what had happened was pretty much what i suspected - she got lifted by two wave crests at bow and stern and broke her back - which is not uncommon for craft designed like that - long and narrow.
And, of course, the Fitzgerald had been stretched significantly by welding in a new section of hull amidships, which would have made her more vulnerable to that sort of thing....
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:39 pm
by AnotherFairportfan
Here's another: What was the last World War One U-boat sunk by a US Navy ship, and where and when?
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:07 pm
by Warrl
AnotherFairportfan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:39 pm
Here's another: What was the last World War One U-boat sunk by a US Navy ship, and where and when?
I dunno, but I'll bet a quatloo that it was well after the war and not in combat.
Re: Trivia - i don't know why
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:10 pm
by FreeFlier
AnotherFairportfan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:31 pmHmmm - the excursion boat that capsized in the Chicago River {which, BTW, was mostly loaded with Czech/Bohemian employees of Chicago Edison ...where my grandfather was a senior electrician}?
Well - the SS Eastland disaster referenced above killed 844...
That's the one!
There were a number of other passenger ships lost that killed several hundred, as well.
AnotherFairportfan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:31 pmRegarding the Fitzgerald - as i recall, when they raised her,. they discovered that what had happened was pretty much what i suspected - she got lifted by two wave crests at bow and stern and broke her back - which is not uncommon for craft designed like that - long and narrow.
And, of course, the Fitzgerald had been stretched significantly by welding in a new section of hull amidships, which would have made her more vulnerable to that sort of thing....
They didn't raise her . . . they found her and dove on her, finding her broken in half.
/reviews Wikipedia/
I hadn't remembered that they located the wreck only four days after the sinking, and put the first ROV down the following spring.
They appear to be uncertain what caused her to break in half . . . hogging is one hypothesis, but there are others.
General information: lakers (lake boats - like submarines, they're always boats) are long and narrow because they need to pass through the Soo Locks, which limit both width and length.
AnotherFairportfan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:39 pm
Here's another: What was the last World War One U-boat sunk by a US Navy ship, and where and when?
I don't remember the number, but I believe it was the one sunk off
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Chicago . . . in the early 1920s?
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She'd been surrendered at the end of the war, and the US examined her carefully, with much testing, then used her in a war bond tour to pay off the war debt, then sank her for target practice as required by the Treaty of Versailles. (It didn't have to be target practice, but she had to be destroyed - scrapped or sunk.)