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Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:51 am
by Just Old Al
If you want to comment on the story, or ask questions or the like please do it here.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:36 am
by Dave
OK, here – he’s calling out a new chassis instead of fixing and modifying the old one for the new configuration. Wonder why?” Sterling pointed to a line in the list of suggested new assemblies.
That was my first "wonder" too. With the chassis and doors being replaced by new, and the whole powertrain coming from the donor, a new wiring harness, and all the wear parts replaced... what's left of the original? Just the body frame and sheet metal, and those high-end axles? The VIN plate, to give it a legal identity?

It feels a bit like a California major remodeling: tear down the house completely except for one or two of the load-bearing walls, and build a new house around those walls. Since it's a "revision of an existing structure" it doesn't trigger a re-assessment of the home's value for tax purposes under Proposition 13 rules, while completely removing the old house and building a new one would (and if it had been a few decades since the property was last sold, the assessed value and the property tax would soar).

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:48 am
by Just Old Al
Dave wrote: That was my first "wonder" too. With the chassis and doors being replaced by new, and the whole powertrain coming from the donor, a new wiring harness, and all the wear parts replaced... what's left of the original? Just the body frame and sheet metal, and those high-end axles? The VIN plate, to give it a legal identity?
You are not all that far off, and VERY good question!

First and foremost, the chassis on this could have been modified, then galvanized and you would have ended up in basically the same place once you also repaired/replaced things like the outriggers and the rear crossmember. It's a matter of bang for the buck - a new, purpose-built chassis for that drivetrain is a phone call away and is all new steel galvanized and all. The difference between the labour and parts and galvanizing and a new chassis would have been minimal and speaking from experience not worth the effort.

Al was essentially buying piles of parts - two donors, neither of which were going to be used in full. The D1 was going to provide drivetrain and high-end systems, and the D-90 a body, bulkhead, ancillaries, axles and most important a legal identity.

The door swap is for 'modern creature comforts' as Al would call them. The doors on an ex-MOD D-90 are old school - removable window sections with sliding windows and a single-skin door. The ones being fitted are modern passenger car doors with roll-up windows and provision for things like central locking if desired.

None of it will go to waste, believe me. That D-90s drivetrain and other bits will be recycled and used elsewhere, and all the body bits from the D1 are not hard to find homes for if at all usable.

Al is a firm believer in reuse - why recycle? :)

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:19 am
by jwhouk
I am holding my tongue until the appropriate time. :)

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:14 pm
by Just Old Al
jwhouk wrote:I am holding my tongue until the appropriate time. :)
Shuddup you and I mean it....

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:27 pm
by FreeFlier
Dave wrote: . . . It feels a bit like a California major remodeling: tear down the house completely except for one or two of the load-bearing walls, and build a new house around those walls. Since it's a "revision of an existing structure" it doesn't trigger a re-assessment of the home's value for tax purposes under Proposition 13 rules, while completely removing the old house and building a new one would (and if it had been a few decades since the property was last sold, the assessed value and the property tax would soar).
Here that's done so you don't have to meet revised laws/codes . . . in one case that I knew of, a new build would have required ten-foot setbacks (from the property lines) not the two foot that it was built to . . . so the (desirable) lot would have dropped below buildable minimums.

Instead the owner replaced the roof and side walls, then waited two years, jacked the walls and roof up, and replaced the floor and so-called foundation . . . another two years, and replace the rest of the walls.

The waits also allowed paying off the prior work.

--FreeFlier

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:34 pm
by jwhouk
Just Old Al wrote:
jwhouk wrote:I am holding my tongue until the appropriate time. :)
Shuddup you and I mean it....
Yessir Mr. Richer Sir.

;)

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:13 pm
by Just Old Al
jwhouk wrote:
Just Old Al wrote:
jwhouk wrote:I am holding my tongue until the appropriate time. :)
Shuddup you and I mean it....
Yessir Mr. Richer Sir.

;)
Laugh it up...

Just remember, one word from me to Nudge and you're back to wandering the halls. Do you REALLY want to end up in an alley in Jersey City again?

She likes me since RE built her that Sphinx-sized whoopee cushion from a truck tyre tube. As long as Phix doesn't figure out where it came from we're all set. :)

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:57 pm
by Warrl
Just Old Al wrote:She likes me since RE built her that Sphinx-sized whoopee cushion from a truck tyre tube. As long as Phix doesn't figure out where it came from we're all set. :)
Do you really think it would take Phix more than 15 seconds to guess?

And if you ever committed any part of the design to paper or computer memory...

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:51 pm
by Just Old Al
Warrl wrote: Do you really think it would take Phix more than 15 seconds to guess?
And if you ever committed any part of the design to paper or computer memory...
Do I look that stupid? That was strictly a "MacGyver Meets Skunk Works" Friday afternoon job.
We had to drop Clara's front end down onto it from a crane to set it off. We tried using a whole Toyota (think cannon fodder) but it wasn't heavy enough.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:04 pm
by FreeFlier
:shock: :?

I think I'd also avoid anything that could be construed as a comment on a lady's weight . . .

--FreeFlier

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:31 am
by jwhouk
Y'know, it strikes me that a lady from Louisville wouldn't be Presbyterian, but Southern Baptist.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:03 am
by Dave
So, how long do we have to wait until we're allowed to understand the new garden Ecosystem, and read the name of the rose? :?
jwhouk wrote:Y'know, it strikes me that a lady from Louisville wouldn't be Presbyterian, but Southern Baptist.
The Mid-Kentucky Presbytery lists no less than 24 Presbyterian churches in Louisville alone, and another couple of dozen or so in the remainder of their area. There are two other presbyteries in the state... Transylvania (Eastern Kentucky) lists 75 churches.

That's not exactly one in every street corner, but it does seem like a pretty healthy presence in the area.

EDIT: in fact, Louisville is the location of the national headquarters of the Presbyterian Church (USA).

And, Wikipedia points out that Presbyterians are, as a group, better educated and wealthier than most other denominations, and "disproportionally represented in the upper reaches of business, law, and politics."

So, Daisy having been raised Presbyterian seems quite plausible to me.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:28 pm
by Just Old Al
Dave wrote:So, how long do we have to wait until we're allowed to understand the new garden Ecosystem, and read the name of the rose? :?
Look, Umberto..... :) That will be revealed at another time.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:10 pm
by jwhouk
Dave wrote:So, how long do we have to wait until we're allowed to understand the new garden Ecosystem, and read the name of the rose? :?
jwhouk wrote:Y'know, it strikes me that a lady from Louisville wouldn't be Presbyterian, but Southern Baptist.
The Mid-Kentucky Presbytery lists no less than 24 Presbyterian churches in Louisville alone, and another couple of dozen or so in the remainder of their area. There are two other presbyteries in the state... Transylvania (Eastern Kentucky) lists 75 churches.

That's not exactly one in every street corner, but it does seem like a pretty healthy presence in the area.

EDIT: in fact, Louisville is the location of the national headquarters of the Presbyterian Church (USA).

And, Wikipedia points out that Presbyterians are, as a group, better educated and wealthier than most other denominations, and "disproportionally represented in the upper reaches of business, law, and politics."

So, Daisy having been raised Presbyterian seems quite plausible to me.
Noted and logged. Thanks.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:16 pm
by chicgeek
Y'know, I'm from Louisville. Not to be presumptuous, but if anyone ever wants to pick my brain about piddly little details, feel free. ^_^
That said, I'm enjoying the story!

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:02 pm
by Just Old Al
chicgeek wrote:Y'know, I'm from Louisville. Not to be presumptuous, but if anyone ever wants to pick my brain about piddly little details, feel free. ^_^
That said, I'm enjoying the story!
{Mumble,mumble,mumble...NOW she tells me... }

:)

Thanks - duly noted and will be held in reference.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:45 pm
by jwhouk
chicgeek wrote:Y'know, I'm from Louisville. Not to be presumptuous, but if anyone ever wants to pick my brain about piddly little details, feel free. ^_^
That said, I'm enjoying the story!
Thanks for not totally picking apart my story about Daisy and Derby Day...

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:04 pm
by GlytchMeister
Warrl wrote:
Just Old Al wrote:She likes me since RE built her that Sphinx-sized whoopee cushion from a truck tyre tube. As long as Phix doesn't figure out where it came from we're all set. :)
Do you really think it would take Phix more than 15 seconds to guess?

And if you ever committed any part of the design to paper or computer memory...
Could have just as easily come from Glytch. Remember, he's not just a nerd. He is just as confortable rolling up his sleeves in a junkyard and tearing cars apart to reanimate a thrice-dead Stratus.

'Course, if you let him get too into it, he might have it play "God Save The Queen" with the wind.

Re: Aluminium Angel Comments Section

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:31 pm
by Dave
GlytchMeister wrote:'Course, if you let him get too into it, he might have it play "God Save The Queen" with the wind.
Hmmm. Moving that tire into position would definitely be rollin' le petour!