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Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:43 pm
by Timotheus
Completely off topic did we ever find out why Tina's basement had a brand new concrete floor put it it?
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/wanttoknowyourlastname/
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:04 pm
by ActionKermit
As far as I can recall, it never came up again after the initial mention. Personally, the Chekov's Boomerang I'm more worried about is the
galaxy alternator that May said she "recovered". The vimana cell that was used to fix Jin's disorder was freshly crafted, but we still don't know if May displaced one when she was working on her own initiative.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:29 pm
by DilyV
Yamara wrote:
Succinct, and on point.
I think fans all 'ship characters to suit our personal tastes. But when we share those tastes, it can cause consternation in those who don't want noncanonical distraction. I.e. "I has feels for poor Jet, but now we switching to soft porn??"
All the same, the prevalence of fanfic shows it to be more normal than weird. Same impulse as artists drawing others' characters. FWIW, 'shipping, even in my own head, is always tough for me. It has to make a lot of narrative sense going in.
Sherlockcam: We know nothing of Jet's current love life, though the Wapsiworld press doubtless must; in the current climate, being openly gay could only help her career, thus this isn't her secret wound. Monica is a staunch monoamorist, Kevin and she are tight, and the issue looming there is her losing him to mortality; time with him is precious. So an M-Jet 'ship just isn't in the threads.
And
Wapsi Square has established lesbians, already. I am perfectly happy to wait for the story to return to them, which
I'm guessing one day it will.
They don't even have to elope to Iowa anymore.
Present company would agree that's a good thing... but don't read too much into that.
When I brought up the possibility, I wasn't shipping... I was merely stating one of many possibilities that could be taking place, which at the time, not knowing much of Jet's life, we have no proof one way or the other. You have to admit, it was one heck of a Friday cliff hangar to leave so much in the wind to be sorted out.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:28 pm
by Yamara
Heck, we still don't even know why Tina thought Monica was a masseuse.
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/12012003/
Which I guess brings us back to
DilyV wrote:When I brought up the possibility, I wasn't shipping... I was merely stating one of many possibilities that could be taking place, which at the time, not knowing much of Jet's life, we have no proof one way or the other. You have to admit, it was one heck of a Friday cliff hangar to leave so much in the wind to be sorted out.
I wasn't trying to single you out. These things get inspired by the least suggestion, and they take a life of their own. Apologies if I seemed to put words in anyone's keyboard.
I suppose if we were to take the Doyle Holmes over the Moffat Holmes, I'd have to admit that we haven't eliminated as
impossible Jet having a thing for M, however improbable. Just as we haven't eliminated the possibility that the Sundahl plane crash happened coterminous with M's bus crash and Shelly's vision quest.
txmystic wrote:Second panel FTW
Yeah, if there is such a thing as an "on"-topic, I'd say it's that this is Monica's first chance to take the driver's seat since Cairo.
This could really be her first chance to save someone's world.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:29 pm
by dex drako
Jabberwonky wrote:The only one to mention M's name is Tina in the phone call. With her appearance in JG mode, are we sure that Georgette isn't seeing someone else?
this is what I'm seeing there too
georette isn't seeing monica I don' know who she's seein but it won't be monica but it's likely why G's been drawn to monica, she reminds georette of someone.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:50 pm
by DilyV
dex drako wrote:Jabberwonky wrote:The only one to mention M's name is Tina in the phone call. With her appearance in JG mode, are we sure that Georgette isn't seeing someone else?
this is what I'm seeing there too
georette isn't seeing monica I don' know who she's seein but it won't be monica but it's likely why G's been drawn to monica, she reminds georette of someone.
I'm wondering about that too... "You're here... you're really here..." After having her guts ripped out over the lost of her parents in the plane crash, she might be seeing her mother in Monica... question is... Why NOW? Why not before when they'd met?
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:18 pm
by Radical_Knight
I hear the "Apocalypse Now" sound track. The Valkyries are singing, the choppers are running hot and Monica has arrived in full battle readiness!!! Oh CRAP!!! NOW WHAT!
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:32 pm
by Jabberwonky
DilyV wrote:dex drako wrote:Jabberwonky wrote:The only one to mention M's name is Tina in the phone call. With her appearance in JG mode, are we sure that Georgette isn't seeing someone else?
this is what I'm seeing there too
georette isn't seeing monica I don' know who she's seein but it won't be monica but it's likely why G's been drawn to monica, she reminds georette of someone.
I'm wondering about that too... "You're here... you're really here..." After having her guts ripped out over the lost of her parents in the plane crash, she might be seeing her mother in Monica... question is... Why NOW? Why not before when they'd met?
Monica wasn't the Jaguar Girl then, certainly not appearing in full battle-rattle with a gout of astral flames. Her powers as a conduit between the living and the dead with all circuits blazing.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:58 pm
by jwhouk
Ahhhh.... We don't KNOW how Monica's "Jaguar Girl" aspect actually works, other than she goes Astral Fire and all that.
(F5) Is it Monday Yet? (F5) Is it Monday Yet? (F5) Is it Monday Yet? (F5) Is it Monday Yet? ...
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:11 pm
by Mark N
Jabberwonky wrote:
Monica wasn't the Jaguar Girl then, certainly not appearing in full battle-rattle with a gout of astral flames. Her powers as a conduit between the living and the dead with all circuits blazing.
I agree with Jabberwonky here. I am getting the feeling that Georgette has just had the scab covering a cancer on her soul torn clean off. From what we got from Jet in the beginning of the arc she was taking chances she should not have. She had bodyguards because her agent felt that she had become too famous to be alone with the unwashed masses. This same problem has kept he from doing the pub brawls for quite a while. For people in pain that tends to be a catharsis generator. She was even thinking about faking her death and starting over again without the fame to try and get something back. It is likely that Jet always sensed (unconsciously) something in Monica that she needed deep down. Now that she has the old wound fresh and out in the open she sees the what looks like an angel of death come blazing in. This may even be the image her unconscious had of Monica. What has happened had to happen for the healing to be able to take place, it is a cruel thing but sometime that is what a well built mental barrier needs if it is to be demolished.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:29 pm
by dex drako
DilyV wrote:dex drako wrote:Jabberwonky wrote:The only one to mention M's name is Tina in the phone call. With her appearance in JG mode, are we sure that Georgette isn't seeing someone else?
this is what I'm seeing there too
georette isn't seeing monica I don' know who she's seein but it won't be monica but it's likely why G's been drawn to monica, she reminds georette of someone.
I'm wondering about that too... "You're here... you're really here..." After having her guts ripped out over the lost of her parents in the plane crash, she might be seeing her mother in Monica... question is... Why NOW? Why not before when they'd met?
just that. back then she didn't have her guts ripped out and wasn't ready to think about or deal with it.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:57 pm
by Dave
Mark N wrote:I agree with Jabberwonky here. I am getting the feeling that Georgette has just had the scab covering a cancer on her soul torn clean off.
It does feel as if something's been festering in there, leading to the sort of unhappy-making behavior you mentioned.
Her parents died in a plane crash, taking her to visit a modeling agency; she and her sister survived; her sister is her whole world.
That all could be consistent with her "soul cancer" being a huge guilt. What if she blames herself for her parents' deaths? If the crash occurred on a trip that the family took only because Georgette wanted to be a model, she could easily have taken on a "They died because of me!" burden. She was certainly old enough to assign that sort of blame to herself... and young and vulnerable enough for it to really scar her emotionally, and color her whole way of seeing the world.
Her focus on her sister could be an attempt to make up for the absence of the parents that "I took away from her".
If that's anything like what's actually going on for Georgette, then I agree... Tina's spilling-of-the-hidden-beans was terribly painful, but could well be a necessary step in G facing down her demons of guilt and starting to heal herself.
(I wrote that meaning it metaphorically, but considering that this is Wapsi we're talking about, Georgette could quite easily have had a Guilt whispering quietly in her ear for decades!)
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:19 am
by NOTDilbert
What Dave said about the Guilt Whisperer. (That sounds different now than it did in my head.)
Also - later, if Georgette still needs to blow off steam after having her aura re-aligned, the Cerberus Club sounds like an ideal spot for this crowd to have a friendly dust-up. Although it's never been confirmed that it's supernats only (and guests), that's been the assumption, and veeery likely there's NO chance of paparazzi (unless there's a magic-only newspaper like in the Harry Pottah movies - which her manager is unlikely to see anyway).
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:25 am
by Jabberwonky
NOTDilbert wrote:What Dave said about the Guilt Whisperer. (That sounds different now than it did in my head.)
Also - later, if Georgette still needs to blow off steam after having her aura re-aligned, the Cerberus Club sounds like an ideal spot for this crowd to have a friendly dust-up. Although it's never been confirmed that it's supernats only (and guests), that's been the assumption, and veeery likely there's NO chance of paparazzi (unless there's a magic-only newspaper like in the Harry Pottah movies - which her manager is unlikely to see anyway).
I don't get 'a pint and a brawl' vibe from Cerberus. Now, the alley behind Darren's is another matter...
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:28 am
by NOTDilbert
Jabberwonky wrote:NOTDilbert wrote:What Dave said about the Guilt Whisperer. (That sounds different now than it did in my head.)
Also - later, if Georgette still needs to blow off steam after having her aura re-aligned, the Cerberus Club sounds like an ideal spot for this crowd to have a friendly dust-up. Although it's never been confirmed that it's supernats only (and guests), that's been the assumption, and veeery likely there's NO chance of paparazzi (unless there's a magic-only newspaper like in the Harry Pottah movies - which her manager is unlikely to see anyway).
I don't get 'a pint and a brawl' vibe from Cerberus. Now, the alley behind Darren's is another matter...
Yeah, more of a dance club, but they wouldn't have bouncers if it didn't happen ONCE in a while, amIright?
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:31 am
by Jabberwonky
NOTDilbert wrote:Jabberwonky wrote:NOTDilbert wrote:What Dave said about the Guilt Whisperer. (That sounds different now than it did in my head.)
Also - later, if Georgette still needs to blow off steam after having her aura re-aligned, the Cerberus Club sounds like an ideal spot for this crowd to have a friendly dust-up. Although it's never been confirmed that it's supernats only (and guests), that's been the assumption, and veeery likely there's NO chance of paparazzi (unless there's a magic-only newspaper like in the Harry Pottah movies - which her manager is unlikely to see anyway).
I don't get 'a pint and a brawl' vibe from Cerberus. Now, the alley behind Darren's is another matter...
Yeah, more of a dance club, but they wouldn't have bouncers if it didn't happen ONCE in a while, amIright?
And with the tiny percentage of the crowd we do know, those could be some kinda donnybrooks to break-up.
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:35 am
by NOTDilbert
Wasn't it at Cerberus where Shelly bitch-punched the three guys at once trash-talking the Native American gals?
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:43 am
by Jabberwonky
NOTDilbert wrote:Wasn't it at Cerberus where Shelly bitch-punched the three guys at once trash-talking the Native American gals?
Yeah, those are
Cerberus backgrounds...
EDIT: doh! I meant to link it...
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:47 am
by NOTDilbert
Jabberwonky wrote:NOTDilbert wrote:Wasn't it at Cerberus where Shelly bitch-punched the three guys at once trash-talking the Native American gals?
Yeah, those are Cerberus backgrounds...
I went and looked too - but that whole arc, nobody ever said WHERE it was - but it did look like Cerberus....
Re: Really Here 2013-08-30
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:18 am
by Timotheus
My guess would be the Cerebus is one of those places where the mundane world and paranormal world intermix. While appearing normal on the surface and open to mundane civilian customers entering and leaving through its regular doors, it also has special entrances for its "special customers" and its staff is well aware of their "special needs guests". The bouncers are all trained to deal with infractions of the rules of mutual coexistence and no doubt they have a MIB office somewhere on the premises.
In Shelly's case she didn't transform or cause a disruptive scene and was a VIP customer (whether she knew it or not). So the bouncers just shuffled her victims out and probably passed a kind suggestion to Bud to tone it down.