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Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:02 am
by Yamara
Oh and btw, SHE HAS EYES.

That's actually, y'know, news in itself.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:10 am
by illiad
please for a neat queue for your whiplash collars..... :P :)

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:16 am
by KnightDelight
Yamara wrote:Oh and btw, SHE HAS EYES.
That's actually, y'know, news in itself.
Well, a closer approximation of eyes anyway. I wonder if the "Visions" are just dreams. Maybe the demons actually slept. Something they haven't done for uncounted ages, if ever. Another step toward soulification.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:22 am
by Fairportfan
For a few seconds there, i thought this was Shelly.

...and i wondered if she was going crazy, with that dialog.

Then i spotted the choker, and the dialog made sense.

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Well, for certain highly-specialised values of "made sense".

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:02 am
by zachariah
Yamara wrote:Hello again, Whitewing! If Tina is evolving, and her punishment coming to an end, then her demon memories may be in the process of returning.

And those comprise unknown quintillions of years.
We have no idea how long a demon punishment will last. Because they lost all memory they too have no idea how long it will last. They couldn't even remember why they were punished. I remember reading something that it will last until the host body dies and they are freed for their next host. The punishment is limitations placed on them during this hosts life. I guess they are supposed to learn something from this. So I doubt it is over.
It is possible that when they evolve into one being the punishment can be voided as the demons will no longer be single demons anymore. Not likely but possible. Once they merge they are probably no longer demons in fact, they will become something else, an angel perhaps? Or a titan?

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:07 am
by Fairportfan
zachariah wrote:Once they merge they are probably no longer demons in fact, they will become something else, an angel perhaps? Or a titan?
Or Tina.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:17 am
by My2Cents
davids4250 wrote:To be honest, I really liked Tina as she was. She was sweet and trying very hard to be the best person she could be. I also liked the rare appearances by her demons. So I am holding out (probably in vain) for this not being Tina, despite the evidence (choker, multiple personalities) to the contrary.
I can't imagine what would have happened to Tina that would make her forget it entirely and make such a dramatic change. Plus, the Tina we all know and love had black wings.
This is a definite case of "No good deed goes unpunished".

At a guess Tina’s recent actions have pushed her into the angel category, but, as usual in the Wapsi universe, an angel will be nothing like what you expected. If so, tomorrow will probably start out with something like Tina looking in the mirror and saying something like “SHIT! I’ve turned into a bloody goody-two-shoes! They can't do this to me!” Then, assuming her new status makes her exempt from Sphinx justice, she heads down to The Library Annex for a sit-down with Phix to work out what she is supposed to do now -- There are some times your parole officer (Phix) is the only one you can trust. Phix’s response is likely to be “Your doing fine, just keep going” rather than anything specific, and Tina going “But I’ll make mistakes!


We need to work out a timeline for how the recent diversion fits in folks. The last strip with Tina was http://wapsisquare.com/comic/out-all-day/, and this is strip is just the morning after.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:20 am
by Grantwhy
zachariah wrote:This probably is Tina. The reference to the group, etc. Not remembering is not a good sign though. We know she was headed to becoming a single entity might it have occurred?
that, or we are about to go into a "Dudette, Where's My Car" storyline :)

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:32 am
by Dave
I think we're seeing the pre-release alpha-test version of Tina 3.0 here.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:38 am
by pinglederry
davids4250 wrote:To be honest, I really liked Tina as she was. She was sweet and trying very hard to be the best person she could be. I also liked the rare appearances by her demons. So I am holding out (probably in vain) for this not being Tina, despite the evidence (choker, multiple personalities) to the contrary.
I can't imagine what would have happened to Tina that would make her forget it entirely and make such a dramatic change. Plus, the Tina we all know and love had black wings.
I'm confused as to what you're talking about, here. Tina is made up of the demons that took over the body when the original Tina died, so they're not "her" demons as much as she's their "mask", with all of them cooperating to give the impression of one person. And this is definitely her. Don't you remember how the black-wing demon's wings turned white at the end of the Georgette segment? And it seems more like they've just become close enough to one vaguely-human entity to be able to have dreams, which I gather they've never experienced before. I'd imagine the whole concept of dreaming would be pretty bizarre and unsettling to anybody who's never experienced it (e.g., http://xkcd.com/203/).

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:31 am
by Jay-Em
Opus the Poet wrote:OK, confused now. What's today's special in Confusion Corner? It better not be Escher Rolls again, those things kept repeating on me.

Well, we díd warn ya that those staricases weren't going to the confusion Corner..



Great way to start a new adventure. Reader=as confuzzled as Tina.

@PingleDerry. A dream? Hmm.. indeed.. seems pretty plausible.

I guess she should be happy then, that she's not dreaming about running around in her bare butt somewhere in St Paul :P

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:20 am
by Opus the Poet
OK something that just occurred to me, is there a mirror in front of Tina or has her vision changed as well?

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:03 am
by jwhouk
Opus the Poet wrote:OK something that just occurred to me, is there a mirror in front of Tina or has her vision changed as well?
No, she's looking out through her eye-sockets - and realizing she's seeing something different.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:12 am
by Julie
NOTDilbert wrote:Of course, Nudge could be in the next room snickering, with hair clippers, a makeup case, and a box of plastic contact lenses...
LOL! I like that theory! :)

And for the folks who are commenting on Tina's hair...it was already on it's way to this when we last saw her (during the Georgette arc). She just had a rat-tail and a little less buzzed head...and she may still have the rat-tail (though I kind of hope not since I've never liked that look).

Definitely intrigued to learn what the glyphs in the eyes might mean. :) I'd actually really like it if Tina elected to call on Phix for assistance figuring out what's happening...just because I liked where their relationship/interactions were going.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:24 am
by Wdot
Timotheus wrote:The covey are no longer running a shell. In the best transformers tradition the Tina Rangers have Morphed into Mega Tina and are now all sitting together on the bridge (as now indicated by the glyph windows) where they will speak and act as one.
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Okay, I'm going to address the Bia hate. We first met Bia when she was little and everything was wiped out utterly and completely... even souls were out of reach of Charon. Sure Bia has done some really hinky things (by mortal standards), but she's trying to prevent something horrible from happening.*Spoiler If you haven't seen T2 Until I find out differently I'm going with Bia is like Sarah Connor. Everybody in the psychiatric hospital thought she was insane until her son showed up with his pet Terminator to save her from the new and improved version. Sarah seemed like an insane evil killer, until you realized she knew that everyone she was interacting with was already dead and her son must be kept alive at all costs. At all costs.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:41 am
by TheDOCTOR
jayessell wrote:She looks pi eyed!
:lol:
Allright, a Regeneration scene! ;) Maybe this is Tinas' "reward" for helping with G & M's "problem".

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:59 am
by ShirouZhiwu
So would that be Bia's symbol in her eyes or is it a symbol that Bia happens to have? Bia is much like her daughter except her age hasn't fixed any of the bahavior issues that I can see.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:19 am
by DilyV
My2Cents wrote:At a guess Tina’s recent actions have pushed her into the angel category, but, as usual in the Wapsi universe, an angel will be nothing like what you expected. If so, tomorrow will probably start out with something like Tina looking in the mirror and saying something like “SHIT! I’ve turned into a bloody goody-two-shoes! They can't do this to me!” Then, assuming her new status makes her exempt from Sphinx justice, she heads down to The Library Annex for a sit-down with Phix to work out what she is supposed to do now -- There are some times your parole officer (Phix) is the only one you can trust. Phix’s response is likely to be “Your doing fine, just keep going” rather than anything specific, and Tina going “But I’ll make mistakes!


We need to work out a timeline for how the recent diversion fits in folks. The last strip with Tina was http://wapsisquare.com/comic/out-all-day/, and this is strip is just the morning after.
I've always understood Tina's covey of demons to be most un-demon-like... After helping with Becky's meds (Phix tells her she made everyone involved do the right thing), she tells Phix that she feels that humans shouldn't have to be made to do the right thing and Phix responds by saying she likes what Tina's demons are becoming... are evolving towards... Poor TIna's demons have been tossed in the deep end and have been forced to sink or swim... and so far have treaded water fairly well. I'm kind of torn if white wing is a progression or yet another entity in addition to blackwing. I'm leaning towards progression because blackwing always had Monica's back and kept the other demons in line... Monica's guardian angel so to speak... The only other explanation suggests that Tina has picked up another entity from somewhere and I don't think that to be the case. As long as we've known about Tina, her demons have always tried to do the right thing... very un-demon-like if you ask me.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:54 am
by kingklash
Dave wrote:I think we're seeing the pre-release alpha-test version of Tina 3.0 here.
That's why you should wait until the early adopters iron out the kinks before you upgrade your system. Tina 3.0 might be a little buggy at first, going from collective to composite can't be easy.

Re: What Happened 2014-01-13

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:36 pm
by Radical_Knight
AW-RIGHT!!! Who's been changing the channel? This doesn't look good for the home team, folks!!!