We Have Tails 2013/12/09

[illiad]

hey...yep, I dun got me a better 'un..... da originul!

[Mark N]

I keep thinking about what Nudge said about the girls when she said that "lost souls have a habit of finding each other." How are the Ursas lost souls. I am kind of expecting a tearjerker comming up.

[Sidhekin]

As morphs why do they even have to show their tails? If they can simulate having clothes why not simulate having no tail?

If they present a so detailed simulation, they risk revealing too much.

[illiad]

Sidhekin: yup, tails and fur cover a lot of stuff... thing is, I'll bet the wapsiverse is a lot more liberated than the 'comic code'... we just wont get to see it...


... unless Paul does an 'after dark' version for PG..

[zachariah]

As morphs why do they even have to show their tails? If they can simulate having clothes why not simulate having no tail?

If they present a so detailed simulation, they risk revealing too much.

Why? They lose the tail so they can wear the cloths. Then lose the fur so they don't over heat. As to riding up they can always simulate the underwear. While I am sure then can very nicely imitate the clothes we had best assume the fur changes to look like material. Or it would be like wearing body paint. While it does cover it still exposes.

As to wearing her sister as a hat, unless they changed the mass laws when the morph, her sisters weight must have given her a very sore neck, or back. Even comic physics has issues with transformation. You get a very heavy fly or a very light elephant unless magic is involved. So far in Wapsi it has been advanced technology that looks like magic.

[jwhouk]

Whoo-Hoo!
PS:
Paul? How many Ls in Castella?

One. For a full guide to the characters: go here. (PDF Document)

[loxmyth]

As to "why not just morph the tails out of the way" -- Tails are part of their natural shape; I presume morphing involves _some_ effort, and if you're in an environment where you can relax and be yourself -- and let folks see you as yourself -- that's probably psychologically more comfortable too.

Fur people are never completely naked. Not unless they shave, anyway.

I do find myself wondering about weather, though -- on the same basis that I boggle at the ladies who wear miniskirts in sub-zero temperatures. And I'd expect that they'd be willing to wear cloths when dealing with paint and oil and such, just as we would consider putting on an apron or overalls. Getting varnish out of fur would be unpleasant.

[Wdot]

Well, maybe the magic is purely illusionary; they don't change form, only appear to. So wearing clothes on top of their fur would be uncomfortably hot and underwear would interfere with their tails; they only wear the bear necessities.

[jayessell]

As to "why not just morph the tails out of the way" -- Tails are part of their natural shape; I presume morphing involves _some_ effort, and if you're in an environment where you can relax and be yourself -- and let folks see you as yourself -- that's probably psychologically more comfortable too.

Fur people are never completely naked. Not unless they shave, anyway.

I do find myself wondering about weather, though -- on the same basis that I boggle at the ladies who wear miniskirts in sub-zero temperatures. And I'd expect that they'd be willing to wear cloths when dealing with paint and oil and such, just as we would consider putting on an apron or overalls. Getting varnish out of fur would be unpleasant.

I think in a Minneapolis winter they would want a real winter coat as opposed to a simulated one.
In the first X-Men movie, when Mystique was impersonating Storm, did she scream when Wolverine cut the Storm cape because it was her skin???

[Fairportfan]

Well, maybe the magic is purely illusionary; they don't change form, only appear to. So wearing clothes on top of their fur would be uncomfortably hot and underwear would interfere with their tails; they only wear the bear necessities.

That was one heavy hat she wore into that theatre, then...

[Yamara]

As to wearing her sister as a hat, unless they changed the mass laws when the morph, her sisters weight must have given her a very sore neck, or back. Even comic physics has issues with transformation. You get a very heavy fly or a very light elephant unless magic is involved. So far in Wapsi it has been advanced technology that looks like magic.

As to "why not just morph the tails out of the way" -- Tails are part of their natural shape; I presume morphing involves _some_ effort, and if you're in an environment where you can relax and be yourself -- and let folks see you as yourself -- that's probably psychologically more comfortable too.

Fur people are never completely naked. Not unless they shave, anyway.

Well, maybe the magic is purely illusionary; they don't change form, only appear to. So wearing clothes on top of their fur would be uncomfortably hot and underwear would interfere with their tails; they only wear the bear necessities.

In the first X-Men movie, when Mystique was impersonating Storm, did she scream when Wolverine cut the Storm cape because it was her skin???

*deep breath*

FERDS!!

[Yamara]

And to add in my own ferdy cred, this probably shouldn't wig out Atsali too much, as the Library has been clothes-optional for quite awhile. Although I could imagine there being bureaucratic rules about what the orphan kids were supposed to see and wear. (A certain minotaur in short pants comes to mind.)

Phix is allowing more humans back in, and with her warnings to M & Shell, she is probably trying to anticipate every potential point of human contention. Body modesty + children are a big one.

[NOTDilbert]

The "Party Tricks" comic a few days ago seems to show that either mass is based on form or ursagirls are hella strong.....

[Dave]

Well, maybe the magic is purely illusionary; they don't change form, only appear to. So wearing clothes on top of their fur would be uncomfortably hot and underwear would interfere with their tails; they only wear the bear necessities.

That was one heavy hat she wore into that theatre, then...

Yeah... if the magic is purely illusionary, then either it's capable of projecting a very misleading location for the ursamorph, or ursamorphs are incredibly strong. Holding a sister who equals your weight, up in the palm of your hand, and not falling over, would be quite a trick!

Sphinxes such as Shelly and Phix are able to change their size quite a lot, Nudge's human morph is somewhere around 30%-50% shorter than her horned morph, and it appears (not certain but likely) that their apparent mass changes along with their change in volume. We haven't seen any indication, for example, that Phix and Shelly are exceptionally light for their size when in sphinx form; in fact, as a sphinx Phix is heavy enough to crack the Library floor during a hard landing. Unless she loses mass somehow when morphing down, she'd have an annoying tendency to sink into the ground when walking, and those high-heeled shoes would be totally impractical. "Spiking" the asphalt is so out-of-style these days!

So, the ursamorphs may simply have access to the same ability, perhaps to an even greater degree.

It may be a bit like the inertialess drive in Garrett's "Backstage Lensman" tribute... something to the effect of "The drive was able to completely neutralize a ship's inertia, allowing the ship to instantly achieve velocities far greater than the speed of light. Unfortunately, while it eliminated inertial mass, it never could decide quite what to do about gravitational mass, which seemed to come and go as the situation required."

[illiad]

if you have ever seen 'Space 1999' , there is a girl who can morph right down to a mouse...

Or it could be like the tardis, where the 'mass' is actually in another dimension, all you see in *this dimension* is the 'shape' they push into it

or like Tsilla, a shadow that can project a 'complete' physically able body..

[kingklash]

if you have ever seen 'Space 1999' , there is a girl who can morph right down to a mouse...

Or it could be like the tardis, where the 'mass' is actually in another dimension, all you see in *this dimension* is the 'shape' they push into it

or like Tsilla, a shadow that can project a 'complete' physically able body..

Marvel Comics once explained that most of their size-shifters will shunt matter to and from a side dimension as their power demands. In fact, one character cured himself of a fatal disease by giving himself the infamous Pym Particle treatment, and then growing to giant-size, overwhelming the disease with brand new healthy cells, along with a boosted immunity factor, so when he shrank down, he had no trace of it in his body. Also recently demonstrated as Adventure Time's "Dog Liver times 51!" BIG LIIIVVVEEEERRRRRRRRR, YEAH!

It's not that Castela Loves Bud more than she does Atsali, It's just that what kid wouldn't run to get ice cream?

[GlytchMeister]

Perhaps shape-shifters in the Wapsiverse use the same theorized wormhole network the Golem Girls may use to point and to circumvent some unfortunate effects of Newton's 3rd law.

I recall a post from a while back (yes, I lurked for a very long time as a guest) here's a link.

So, the same wormhole network that is utilized by the Golem Girls (most notably, Bud's Golf Ball Drill Hurl and Bud's Calendar Machine Disposal Hurl) to absorb the immense equal and opposite forces and to transport their bodies intact (and their clothes... kinda intact most of the time) may be capable of handling the mass that is lost during transformation.

I wonder if it is possible to point something to be literally inside something else... Like the annoying Diviner Ulgo Monk from The Malloreon could leave people inside rocks by... Vibrating their atoms in such a way that the atoms could pass through each other's empty spaces. Or like the Flash could vibrate himself through barriers taking advantage of the same characteristic of atoms (I think... Although I'm a bit of a comic fan, I only know the most general and common information in both DC and Marvel).

[Fairportfan]

It's not that Castela Loves Bud more than she does Atsali, It's just that what kid wouldn't run to get ice cream?

Besides, she's known Atsali most of her life.

Bud's NEW.

[Hansontoons]

After all the shape-shifting discussion, anyone else wondering what the twins look like when they take human form?

[Grantwhy]

It's not entirely relevant to the discussion, but ...?

Sam the Eagle vs Nudity