...you've never seen kudzu, have you?TazManiac wrote:You guys got the invasive plant problem waaaay to easy. Here in Base Camp #2 (Northern California 'Country') the stuff that creeps everywhere is either Blackberry (complete w/ viscous thorns) & Poison Oak (different from P. Ivy, of which there is some of that too...).
You can't really deal with it by any other means than spade-shovel and get the big root out.
I wonder if Castela will now be slightly towering over her same age compatriots...
Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
Blackberries can be pulled. Up here we have himalayan and evergreen blackberries . . . plus japanese knotweed. And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard! The others have naturalized, though . . .TazManiac wrote:You guys got the invasive plant problem waaaay to easy. Here in Base Camp #2 (Northern California 'Country') the stuff that creeps everywhere is either Blackberry (complete w/ viscous thorns) & Poison Oak (different from P. Ivy, of which there is some of that too...).
You can't really deal with it by any other means than spade-shovel and get the big root out.
Not much kills japanese knotweed . . . live steam injected into the ground . . . the strongest nonselective herbicides . . . mowing every week for 10 years, then drying and burning the clippings . . . and the roots go down 10 feet or more!
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Forget invasive plants - make damn sure you want asparagus or strawberries in perpetuity before you plant them.GlytchMeister wrote:Mint heals like deadpool. At mom's old house, she and I would spend all day pulling all of the mint out of her garden. We'd also dig through the dirt to remove what root leftovers we could find.
Sure enough, the damn plants were back with a vengeance like nothing ever happened.
One year my dad decided to put in an entirely new garden; he got the guy from the dairy farm across the street to being his big disc harrow and thoroughly work the ground - i think he went across it in different directions two or three times.
Everything was chopped to Teeny Tiny Bits.
Next year? Asparagus and strawberries, right in the same place.
"Did you miss us, boss?"
The rows weren't quite as tidy as they'd been, though, i do have to say that.
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I can't recall - where are you?FreeFlier wrote:And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard!
Must be at or above the Mason-Dixon if it's possible to knock out kudzu that only shows up "periodically".
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Kudzu is a deathshroud. It is the closest thing to an apocalyptic "green goo" scenario we've gotten to so far.
It grows over and sun-chokes entire forests.
You can see it grow just by staring at it.
If it went any faster, it would be considered a predator.
It grows over and sun-chokes entire forests.
You can see it grow just by staring at it.
If it went any faster, it would be considered a predator.
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
Way back in 1977, i was riding the (then-still-Southern Rwy) Crescent to New Orleans for a friend's wedding.GlytchMeister wrote:Kudzu is a deathshroud. It is the closest thing to an apocalyptic "green goo" scenario we've gotten to so far.
It grows over and sun-chokes entire forests.
You can see it grow just by staring at it.
If it went any faster, it would be considered a predator.
I was in the observation car dome and i was chatting with a couple of Brits, whop had bought a ninety-day rail pass that let them ride basically anywhere in the US.
They were asking me about things they saw, and one pointed to a large swath of kudzu and asked, and also inquired as to what were the things we could see under it.
"Well, i said. Those two vertical-column thingies are power poles, the kudzu-covered horizontal bridge between them is the powerlines.
"The diagonals are the poles' guy wires.
"That big squarish mass looks as if it was a barn when that was part of a working farm.."
I let it trail off.
"And what are those mounded areas there there and there?"
"Oh," i said, looking a bit aside, "those are probably slow cows."
For about half a minute they almost believed me.
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A really big field of the stuff in far-Southern April growing conditions looks as if it might.
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We have plenty of it around here if anyone needs some. It also makes some very good jelly and syrup. http://www.thekitchn.com/did-you-know-y ... udzu-92488
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
Seattle area. Conditions are fairly good for kudzu, but it's never gotten established and there are no adjacent vectors.AnotherFairportfan wrote:I can't recall - where are you?FreeFlier wrote:And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard!
Must be at or above the Mason-Dixon if it's possible to knock out kudzu that only shows up "periodically".
In at least one case, some moron brought it in intentionally.
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
Well, if you have Kudzu, then nobody in your area should be hungry.
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Climate's too cool overall - the stuff dies back to the root at the first real frost.FreeFlier wrote:Seattle area. Conditions are fairly good for kudzu, but it's never gotten established and there are no adjacent vectors.AnotherFairportfan wrote:I can't recall - where are you?FreeFlier wrote:And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard!
Must be at or above the Mason-Dixon if it's possible to knock out kudzu that only shows up "periodically".
In at least one case, some moron brought it in intentionally.
--FreeFlier
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
FreeFlier wrote:And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard!
AnotherFairportfan wrote:I can't recall - where are you?
Must be at or above the Mason-Dixon if it's possible to knock out kudzu that only shows up "periodically".
FreeFlier wrote:Seattle area. Conditions are fairly good for kudzu, but it's never gotten established and there are no adjacent vectors.
In at least one case, some moron brought it in intentionally.
Seattle seldom has "real" frosts. The last time that comes to mind is the winter 2008/2009. It was clear down below freezing for two weeks . . . and everyone complains mightily when it gets all the way down to freezing.AnotherFairportfan wrote:Climate's too cool overall - the stuff dies back to the root at the first real frost.
It's possible for kudzu to establish here, especially if it finds one of the 'banana belt' pockets that virtually never freeze.
Plus the easiest time to eradicate it is before it becomes established.
Now inland, that's a different story . . . east of the Cascade Mountains it freezes hard for weeks or months every winter.
--FreeFlier
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It's Bermuda grass, ragweed, and poison ivy, here in Kansas. Bamboo and various foreign tall grasses can also be quite the problem. But ragweed is the only one tha really approaches kudzu levels.FreeFlier wrote:Blackberries can be pulled. Up here we have himalayan and evergreen blackberries . . . plus japanese knotweed. And periodically a kudzu growth shows up . . . the state jumps on that hard! The others have naturalized, though . . .TazManiac wrote:You guys got the invasive plant problem waaaay to easy. Here in Base Camp #2 (Northern California 'Country') the stuff that creeps everywhere is either Blackberry (complete w/ viscous thorns) & Poison Oak (different from P. Ivy, of which there is some of that too...).
You can't really deal with it by any other means than spade-shovel and get the big root out.
Not much kills japanese knotweed . . . live steam injected into the ground . . . the strongest nonselective herbicides . . . mowing every week for 10 years, then drying and burning the clippings . . . and the roots go down 10 feet or more!
--FreeFlier
The poison ivy sticks to riverbanks, creekshores, ditches, and wooded areas.
I've also heard of a few neighborhoods in the Wichita area having issues with some variety winter-hearty cholla cactus. The stuff grows like vines and the needles pierce right through leather gloves. I've had to handle it before. I used a vice wrench on a wide setting to grab it.
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
I can believe that . . . there are cacti growing wild in eastern Washington.Gyrrakavian wrote: . . . I've also heard of a few neighborhoods in the Wichita area having issues with some variety winter-hearty cholla cactus. The stuff grows like vines and the needles pierce right through leather gloves. I've had to handle it before. I used a vice wrench on a wide setting to grab it.
In the southwest, ranchers will burn the spines off prickly pear with a flamethrower so the cattle can eat it. Apparently the cattle like it.
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I WANT THAT JOB. I want to be the guy with the flamethrower!FreeFlier wrote:I can believe that . . . there are cacti growing wild in eastern Washington.Gyrrakavian wrote: . . . I've also heard of a few neighborhoods in the Wichita area having issues with some variety winter-hearty cholla cactus. The stuff grows like vines and the needles pierce right through leather gloves. I've had to handle it before. I used a vice wrench on a wide setting to grab it.
In the southwest, ranchers will burn the spines off prickly pear with a flamethrower so the cattle can eat it. Apparently the cattle like it.
--FreeFlier
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He's mister exploiter, he's mister ones and zeros
They call me GlytchMeister, whatever I touch
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3c2fe2 ... 1e18368582GlytchMeister wrote:I WANT THAT JOB. I want to be the guy with the flamethrower!
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That guy is one of my favorite characters everDave wrote:https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3c2fe2 ... 1e18368582GlytchMeister wrote:I WANT THAT JOB. I want to be the guy with the flamethrower!
Remember Glycerine 48? The air around here is thick with envy.
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They call me GlytchMeister, whatever I touch
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Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
One of the reasons the CCC introduced kudzu in some areas is that it makes good graze for cattle - particularly dairy cattle as the milk is extra sweet and rich - as long as they keep moving, i guess.FreeFlier wrote:I can believe that . . . there are cacti growing wild in eastern Washington.Gyrrakavian wrote: . . . I've also heard of a few neighborhoods in the Wichita area having issues with some variety winter-hearty cholla cactus. The stuff grows like vines and the needles pierce right through leather gloves. I've had to handle it before. I used a vice wrench on a wide setting to grab it.
In the southwest, ranchers will burn the spines off prickly pear with a flamethrower so the cattle can eat it. Apparently the cattle like it.
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Re: Growth Spurt 2016-06-13
Nah, her jeans look to be the same length in both days' strips. They haven't grown at all in the interval.FreeFlier wrote:She has kudzu genes?
Kudzu and cholla would be even more fun.GlytchMeister wrote:One of my maddest "mad science" moments was when I first thought of gene-splicing mint and kudzu together.
Mint is an extremely invasive plant as well, and it has caused my mom and one of my aunts endless trouble.
Then it has to contend with the dreaded banana slugs, though.FreeFlier wrote:It's possible for kudzu to establish here, especially if it finds one of the 'banana belt' pockets that virtually never freeze.
Re: Growth Spurt 2016-06-13
Banana slugs only eat decaying vegetation . . . not live stuff.Catawampus wrote: . . .Then it has to contend with the dreaded banana slugs, though.FreeFlier wrote:It's possible for kudzu to establish here, especially if it finds one of the 'banana belt' pockets that virtually never freeze.
It's the black slugs (invaders from Europe) that eat live plants.
--FreeFlier
Re: Growth Spurt 01 2016-06-13
Speaking of invasive plants, I have a bamboo thicket that surrounds my house. It was flattened by a bulldozer recently, but small shoots are appearing.
Looks like I need to make improvised napalm...
Looks like I need to make improvised napalm...
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