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zachariah wrote:The nickname Jet probably has two sources. One she is always traveling at high speed, even as a kid. Always moving, going, and doing. Thus her sister nicknamed her. The other choice is a shortened form of her name G'ette which was easily shortened to Jet as the G sound can often sound like a J. So instead of calling for Georgette she called. 'Hey Jet! Get you butt home for supper!'

While Jet may be easier to type it can also be confusing to those who don't know about it. Though that cannot be many the number of times it has been explained. I'll stick to Georgette simply by preference.

I wonder if Georgette could be a projective empath without knowing it.
If you're an empath, believe me, you are acutely aware of it. You can't help it. Think about it this way... An empath feels everything around them... they can't help it, it just floods in, just as psychoanalysis floods out of Tina. With Tina, the more strong the roiled emotions, the more she's driven to analyze... with Jet it could be that the stronger the emotion she's exposed to, the more it effects her (normal for empaths). Oddly, I've always thought of Jet as quiet and reserved, like she was hiding something within herself she didn't want people to see. Monica poiting in ready for bear overloaded Jet's ability to manage and triggered her reaction. We're still in the dark so to speak whether or not that was a real time or dream sequence kiss and grope... Could Jet's worst fear have been Monica finding out that she harbored fantasies about her? In that last panel, I'm not so sure that's anger on Monica's face... It looks like surprised embarrassment.
That is why I said projective empath. This is something else entirely. An empath receives, a projective sends. It may or may not be under their control. She wouldn't need to be a strong one either as Monica can pick up the signals better. If it is a mental image then Georgette could have sent it and pulled Monica into it. Then they both experienced it. Monica would be really surprised by it and could easily mistake it for a real event, not a mental event. She might afterwards, but during she would be reacting to the impulse and responding to them. That would be why she appeared to be returning Georgette's response, her arms were around Georgette at the end and she was involved in the kiss not just frozen in surprise. Then she realized what was happening and at the end pulled out of the link.
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zachariah wrote:That is why I said projective empath. This is something else entirely. An empath receives, a projective sends. It may or may not be under their control. She wouldn't need to be a strong one either as Monica can pick up the signals better. If it is a mental image then Georgette could have sent it and pulled Monica into it. Then they both experienced it. Monica would be really surprised by it and could easily mistake it for a real event, not a mental event. She might afterwards, but during she would be reacting to the impulse and responding to them. That would be why she appeared to be returning Georgette's response, her arms were around Georgette at the end and she was involved in the kiss not just frozen in surprise. Then she realized what was happening and at the end pulled out of the link.
Oh snap, what if why that's why the plane crashed? Scenario: Jet gets scared of heights, and broadcasts it to everyone in the plane. The pilot gets blindsided by the onslaught and can't keep control of the plane. The plane starts to crash, which makes Jet even more scared, and creates a feedback loop that keeps everyone emotionally paralyzed until it crashes. Jet spends the rest of her life building barriers between herself and other people to keep her unacknowledged abilities from hurting anyone else, Tina breaks down the barriers, and now her powers are manifesting again.
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Okay. Home sick and seeing this completely differently.

What if, Jet was saved in the crash by a Jaguar girl. A guardian angel bathed in flame. Thus the whole meaning behind, "It's you" changes. It's not Monica she needs exactly but the Jaguar girl who saved her. Since the other Jaguar girl is not on speed dial Monica is what she needs.
So what does she do when she sees her angel of fire appear before her? Gives her a loving kiss to thank her. A little too loving for sure. It's likely Jet thought she'd never see her again.

Some questions arise and I think it's been debated before but I do not recall the answer. Is there more than one Jaguar girl? If there is only one what happened to the previous one? There had to at least have been a previous one for Shelly and Bud to find something to refer to when figuring out Monica's the Jaguar girl.

Monica's been blindsided by many a kiss in thawing. I can only guess that her petrified state in those instances prevented her from perceiving the kiss to its complete extent. This time while blindsided she quickly became aware of what was going on. Thus her reaction today.

That's all I can ramble on about for the moment. I'll probably take another five hour nap after this. Sick is not fun, especially when naps cut into your conscious hours.
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kingklash wrote:So, people want to be with her, instead of wanting to be with her. That's what M saw last time, Superficial vs. Substantial, Veneer instead of Foundation. Georgette may know this, but since it has been her life for so long, she may be scared to examine it too close.
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Atomic wrote:
Yamara wrote:
Jay-Em wrote:Another "jaguar Girl" gift.
Good point. I think M's telepathy is (still) limited to her golems, but this could be the power Shelly didn't list, the ability to see anyone's worst fear.

Kissing Monica is Jet's worst fear?
Excellent catch! I'd overlooked that JG aspect. Besides, "She has the mind of a sociopath, but the heart of a lion!" Looks like Monica isn't fully in charge of her Jaguar skills yet.

Or, maybe she is!
Avenger_Reloaded seems to think so. If the Sundahls crashed the same time that Tina & Monica were in the bus accident, and Shelly was dying in the wilderness, then M & J might have met in The Hallway before.

That would suggest Jet had become another of those "open doorways"...

You'd think Someone would have taken that into account.
zachariah wrote:The nickname Jet probably has two sources. One she is always traveling at high speed, even as a kid. Always moving, going, and doing. Thus her sister nicknamed her. The other choice is a shortened form of her name G'ette which was easily shortened to Jet as the G sound can often sound like a J.
Timotheus wrote:The 'Jet' nickname is much easier to explain. Georgette gets reduced to 'gette in common use which is heard as "jet" in normal pronunciation. She was probably called "Jet" way before the plane crash.

If Jet was the nickname her sister gave her before the plane accident, it was also before her modelling career.

So it's possible that Jet invented a stage name based on the nickname her sister gave her. Something like "Gorgeous+Jet=Georgette".

Though, of course... that would mean her birth name wasn't Georgette.


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Avenger_Reloaded wrote: Some questions arise and I think it's been debated before but I do not recall the answer. Is there more than one Jaguar girl? If there is only one what happened to the previous one? There had to at least have been a previous one for Shelly and Bud to find something to refer to when figuring out Monica's the Jaguar girl.
there has likely been many Jaguar women and men what we don't know is if they were immortal not tho.

jaguar girl thing comes mayan priesthood where jaguars are seen as go between for the land of the living and land of the dead. so there were likely alot of Jaguar prists at one time but Mon's immortality seems to come from the key in her head which shilly said had phoenix blood in it and that's not normally part of the Jaguar person package I'd guess. this leads me to say all other jaguar people should grow old then die like everyone else.

tho I could be completely wrong
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This is going to be an endlessly amusing conversation when/if it ever comes up with Kevin :lol:

Though with Mon becoming full on Jaguar Girl now, I think a chick smooching her out of the blue would be an after thought in any relationship discussion.

On a side note...

Lip bite pull away.... HOT!!! :oops:
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Both girls posture are calling in the last panel.

M's arms crossed over her chest but bending forward; Jet's arms are open but she's slightly moving backward, stance on defence.I wonder if Jet is the real culprit here.

Also, law of comedy imply Kevin just opened the door and is now picking his jaw off the floor.

Not that they're nothing else but pretty on the arm, still I miss the boy crowd.
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TheDOCTOR wrote:Cue Mr. Barry White! :twisted:
Barry White would have been playing for the previous two pages. Today's soundtrack is a record scratch.
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Swedish Chef wrote:Both girls posture are calling in the last panel.
Also, law of comedy imply Kevin just opened the door and is now picking his jaw off the floor.
Door's locked - remember Tina's 911? She told Monica the door was locked and no-one would see.
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Fairportfan wrote:
Swedish Chef wrote:Both girls posture are calling in the last panel.
Also, law of comedy imply Kevin just opened the door and is now picking his jaw off the floor.
Door's locked - remember Tina's 911? She told Monica the door was locked and no-one would see.
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ActionKermit wrote:
zachariah wrote:That is why I said projective empath. This is something else entirely. An empath receives, a projective sends. It may or may not be under their control. She wouldn't need to be a strong one either as Monica can pick up the signals better. If it is a mental image then Georgette could have sent it and pulled Monica into it. Then they both experienced it. Monica would be really surprised by it and could easily mistake it for a real event, not a mental event. She might afterwards, but during she would be reacting to the impulse and responding to them. That would be why she appeared to be returning Georgette's response, her arms were around Georgette at the end and she was involved in the kiss not just frozen in surprise. Then she realized what was happening and at the end pulled out of the link.
Oh snap, what if why that's why the plane crashed? Scenario: Jet gets scared of heights, and broadcasts it to everyone in the plane. The pilot gets blindsided by the onslaught and can't keep control of the plane. The plane starts to crash, which makes Jet even more scared, and creates a feedback loop that keeps everyone emotionally paralyzed until it crashes. Jet spends the rest of her life building barriers between herself and other people to keep her unacknowledged abilities from hurting anyone else, Tina breaks down the barriers, and now her powers are manifesting again.
Maybe but most of these type gifts tend to start manifesting during, or after puberty. It's almost like a self defense trait in them to prevent a young mind from having to cope with something they are not ready for yet, or the stress of it causes it to manifest. Monica started early but her gifts were forced to appear early by Jin.
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Jabberwonky wrote:
Fairportfan wrote:Door's locked - remember Tina's 911? She told Monica the door was locked and no-one would see.
You can see a lot of Minneapolis from the inside of that shop...
And the icon of the Blessed Virgin, wreathed in light, is peeking demurely over Monica's shoulder. A nice touch for this particular scene, I thought ;)
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zachariah wrote: Maybe but most of these type gifts tend to start manifesting during, or after puberty. It's almost like a self defense trait in them to prevent a young mind from having to cope with something they are not ready for yet, or the stress of it causes it to manifest. Monica started early but her gifts were forced to appear early by Jin.
Problem with your idea is that the idea of "gifts" developing at puberty is rooted in comic books and movies not in scientific facts. if Paul has done anything consistently over the years it is turning popular belief on its ear and show the info from the myth's were mostly full of hype.
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Mark N wrote:
zachariah wrote: Maybe but most of these type gifts tend to start manifesting during, or after puberty. It's almost like a self defense trait in them to prevent a young mind from having to cope with something they are not ready for yet, or the stress of it causes it to manifest. Monica started early but her gifts were forced to appear early by Jin.
Problem with your idea is that the idea of "gifts" developing at puberty is rooted in comic books and movies not in scientific facts. if Paul has done anything consistently over the years it is turning popular belief on its ear and show the info from the myth's were mostly full of hype.
And the "gifts" sometimes manifest waaaaay early.

They get shut down. Hard. Usually by well-meaning family. They can re-manifest during puberty, as it is a highly charged event in physical, mental, and psychological ways in a young persons life, and be twice as scary and unpredictable. Again, it can and usually is, shut down by well-meaning family. When it comes crashing back down as an adult? Dangerous.

If it were me, and happened to my kids? I'd find the nearest Talent, and have them help adjust my family into getting used to all the "gifts" being presented. Then again, I'm half Asian, so some of the mysticism and mumbo-jumbo that is strange in say, my Polish Catholic upbringing is not quite as odd, and leaves room for investigation. They still hate me for wearing white to a funeral(or green in the case of my favourite Aunt).

Yeaaaah, define strange.

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DinkyInky wrote:.If it were me, and happened to my kids? I'd find the nearest Talent, and have them help adjust my family into getting used to all the "gifts" being presented. Then again, I'm half Asian, so some of the mysticism and mumbo-jumbo that is strange in say, my Polish Catholic upbringing is not quite as odd, and leaves room for investigation. They still hate me for wearing white to a funeral(or green in the case of my favourite Aunt).

Yeaaaah, define strange.
Gotta wonder, though. If a child exhibits a truly dangerous and horrifying Gift at a young age (say, a preternatural skill with the accordion), would some form of extreme suppression or exorcism by the parents be justified?

Not all gifts are good, or even morally neutral. I'm not sure whether even the best parental intentions, loving support, and a good upbringing can turn Polka into a virtue. ;)
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Dave wrote:
DinkyInky wrote:.If it were me, and happened to my kids? I'd find the nearest Talent, and have them help adjust my family into getting used to all the "gifts" being presented. Then again, I'm half Asian, so some of the mysticism and mumbo-jumbo that is strange in say, my Polish Catholic upbringing is not quite as odd, and leaves room for investigation. They still hate me for wearing white to a funeral(or green in the case of my favourite Aunt).

Yeaaaah, define strange.
Gotta wonder, though. If a child exhibits a truly dangerous and horrifying Gift at a young age (say, a preternatural skill with the accordion), would some form of extreme suppression or exorcism by the parents be justified?

Not all gifts are good, or even morally neutral. I'm not sure whether even the best parental intentions, loving support, and a good upbringing can turn Polka into a virtue. ;)
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Mark N wrote:The "accordion" skills worked out well for Weird Al Yankovic.
Ah, but that was family heritage... his dad was a respected Polka musician.
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Mark N wrote:
Dave wrote:
DinkyInky wrote:If it were me, and happened to my kids? I'd find the nearest Talent, and have them help adjust my family into getting used to all the "gifts" being presented.
Not all gifts are good, or even morally neutral. I'm not sure whether even the best parental intentions, loving support, and a good upbringing can turn Polka into a virtue. ;)
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Dave wrote:Gotta wonder, though. If a child exhibits a truly dangerous and horrifying Gift at a young age (say, a preternatural skill with the accordion), would some form of extreme suppression or exorcism by the parents be justified?

Not all gifts are good, or even morally neutral. I'm not sure whether even the best parental intentions, loving support, and a good upbringing can turn Polka into a virtue. ;)
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