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Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:24 pm
by Sphinx-Napped
GuySmiley wrote:
(Oh, and while I'm at it. Hi there! Can anyone tell me where to find confusion corner?)
i need to find it as well,took i have no idea what going on with brandi ,but this"brandi seems to be having problems..

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:20 pm
by kingklash
She's a Bran-Droid!

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:24 pm
by shadowinthelight
kingklash wrote:She's a Bran-Droid!
Yup, she's you're average, regular robot.

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:21 pm
by Grantwhy
So,

there is the Brandi that parties
there is the Brandi that plans
there is the Brandi that cares about fashion

...... :?:

*zooms in on Brandi's eyes*
*closer*
*closer*
*closer*

:shock:

Oh-No!

She's full of ponies :o


(apologies to those that don't get either reference)
<gee, it would be a real shame if someone from the fan art thread tried to make that>

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:21 pm
by jwhouk
There's an underlying question here: does Monica have control over both Brandi and Director Oduya?

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:23 pm
by Dave
Stigmartyr762 wrote:Lily is Anasazi.......there's a hook I wasn't expecting at all. I wonder who the second Anasazi is?
Ah, but is Lily truly one of "the last two living Anasazi"? Are Wapsiverse vampires truly alive (i.e died, and then actually returned to life)? In the common mythos, vampires are usually described as "undead" - stuck somewhere 'tween true life and complete death.

Points and cookies to those who inferred that Lily's extreme age, and the fact that she died in the Southwestern desert, probably made her a pre-Clovis Native American. I wasn't sure that was necessarily correct, but Brandi's statement (if true) would clinch it.

And, yeah, the identity of the other surviving Anasazi is an interesting question. How would that individual have survived until today?

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:49 pm
by Wyvern
Dave wrote:Ah, but is Lily truly one of "the last two living Anasazi"? Are Wapsiverse vampires truly alive (i.e died, and then actually returned to life)? In the common mythos, vampires are usually described as "undead" - stuck somewhere 'tween true life and complete death.

And, yeah, the identity of the other surviving Anasazi is an interesting question. How would that individual have survived until today?

As I said earlier, the word "living" may not really be what Brandi is after. "Ambulatory," perhaps?

Maybe Brandi is the other.

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:58 pm
by jwhouk
...By not realizing how old she really was?

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:49 pm
by Yamara
Let's not forget what Brandi said when she first entered this scene.

The Library can read the minds of anyone who comes to visit, and almost certainly does for any being of great power.

Brandi's programming is in Glyph, a written language, which the Library would automatically copy (however it does that). Well, that's a tad hazardous. Are these golems being sent around to the stargates the "originals" recompiled by the Glyph Readers out of the Chimera, or are they Library's copies that it can lend out?

Does the Library update its copies of the GGs in real time? Or does it maintain a complete reference collection of Buds Brandis and Jins as they existed throughout history?

Or are golems one of those reasons to keep secrets from the Library.

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:01 am
by DilyV
kingklash wrote:She's a Bran-Droid!
Ya gotta wonder if she's got Machine Gun Jumbleys.... heheee

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:29 am
by Atomic
Sphinx-Napped wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:
(Oh, and while I'm at it. Hi there! Can anyone tell me where to find confusion corner?)
i need to find it as well,took i have no idea what going on with brandi ,but this"brandi seems to be having problems..
Follow the smell of fresh cookies, and avoid the corridor with the gentle, hollow wooshing of a breeze through the pun jar opening.

Caution -- if you hear bats and/or step on a flipper, turn around and run!

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:45 am
by zachariah
Sphinx-Napped wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:
(Oh, and while I'm at it. Hi there! Can anyone tell me where to find confusion corner?)
i need to find it as well,took i have no idea what going on with brandi ,but this"brandi seems to be having problems..
When you have to ask where is the corner you are there. You just have to alter your mind set a little and it will come into focus. Accept the fact that 98% of everything said here is pure speculation based upon what we think is happening, and why. We only find out if we were right after it's all over. Just keep in mind the motto.

WE MAY BE SURE BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE RIGHT!

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:50 am
by Dave
Wyvern wrote:As I said earlier, the word "living" may not really be what Brandi is after. "Ambulatory," perhaps?

Maybe Brandi is the other.
It seems fairly well established that Brandi is of north African descent, and as a Lanthian subject she'd date back somewhere around 10,000 years (not counting Calendar Machine loops).

Lily is about half that age... which puts her birth well before the date that the Old Pueblo (Anasazi) culture is usually considered to have originated (in our timeline and worldline, of course). The ancestors of the Anasazi were almost certainly hanging around the southwest in 3000 BCE, though, so saying that she's Anasazi seems quite reasonable.

So, I don't think Brandi is the other Anasazi... there's another new player to be introduced. My hunch is that it's someone Katherine and Atsali are supposed to meet - perhaps the maker of the kachina dolls?

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:17 am
by Jabberwonky
Grantwhy wrote: :shock:

Oh-No!

She's full of ponies :o


(apologies to those that don't get either reference)
<gee, it would be a real shame if someone from the fan art thread tried to make that>
Not exactly what you were imagining, but it's what flashed through my brain...

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:54 am
by Julie
txmystic wrote:Well, if it IS multiple personality disorder, then I shudder to think what the ill effects of that will be...

...pass those brownies.

Wait, are the brownies mayhap left over from 4/20? ;-)
:P No. I don't celebrate that occasion. :) I like my brownies fudgy and delicious...and only mind-altering due to the intense amount of chocolate involved. :P
Yamara wrote:Let's not forget what Brandi said when she first entered this scene.

The Library can read the minds of anyone who comes to visit, and almost certainly does for any being of great power.
Wait. What? I thought that the Library knew where Kat and Atsali were going and why because they actually talked about it while in the Library...and then of course the Library would be aware of what portal was being used to exit. Did I miss the "mind reading" revelation? :?

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:28 am
by Jabberwonky
Julie wrote:
txmystic wrote:Well, if it IS multiple personality disorder, then I shudder to think what the ill effects of that will be...

...pass those brownies.

Wait, are the brownies mayhap left over from 4/20? ;-)
:P No. I don't celebrate that occasion. :) I like my brownies fudgy and delicious...and only mind-altering due to the intense amount of chocolate involved. :P
"What about love?"
"Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate."
- Al Pacino 'The Devil's Advocate'

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:30 am
by Julie
Jabberwonky wrote:
Julie wrote:
txmystic wrote:Well, if it IS multiple personality disorder, then I shudder to think what the ill effects of that will be...

...pass those brownies.

Wait, are the brownies mayhap left over from 4/20? ;-)
:P No. I don't celebrate that occasion. :) I like my brownies fudgy and delicious...and only mind-altering due to the intense amount of chocolate involved. :P
"What about love?"
"Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate."
- Al Pacino 'The Devil's Advocate'
I love that movie. :)

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:13 am
by Wdot
jwhouk wrote:There's an underlying question here: does Monica have control over both Brandi and Director Oduya?
I'd answer this speculation with "yes and no." Like Florence can be controlled by humans in Freefall Brandi can be controlled by Monica. However, just like Florence can do an end run around her programming if she feels the absolute need to do so, Senior Director Oduya, who can hatch plans that can conclude with a woman skinning herself, will do what she wants even if she has to manipulate Monica into ordering her to do what she wants to do. It is hard to control something that is so much more intelligent than you are; not that Monica isn't really smart, but not many are in the Director's League.

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:28 pm
by jwhouk
I don't know. Theoretically, I do that (manipulate something that is much more intelligent than me) every day.

Theoretically, I'm doing so right now.

Re: Last Two 2013-04-24

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:21 pm
by Wdot
jwhouk wrote:I don't know. Theoretically, I do that (manipulate something that is much more intelligent than me) every day.

Theoretically, I'm doing so right now.
Uh, theoretically, you wouldn't happen to use a Voight-Kampff machine at work and have used this sentence at work today: "You’re watching television. Suddenly you realize there’s a wasp crawling on your arm." hmmm? Because if not, I think we're talking about two totally different kinds of "intelligence.". ;)

I deal with eleven hundred pound organic intelligences on a regular basis that routinely get the better of college graduates and couldnt "pass the entrance exam to kindergarten." But they do have a mind of their own and know what they don't want to do.