Wapsi Square Forum

AnotherFairportfan wrote:

Swedish Chef wrote:Nothing new here, after all the Internet is for horn.

You die now.

. . .

So what color will he be now?

/flrrd/

--FreeFlier

FreeFlier wrote:

AnotherFairportfan wrote:

Swedish Chef wrote:Nothing new here, after all the Internet is for horn.

You die now.

. . .

So what color will he be now?

/flrrd/

--FreeFlier

kthxdie

He wont change color, he'll just get new threads...

And new theme music.

What I mean about there being so many lesbians that it's getting annoying, is that it's becoming cliché. It's almost like it's becoming a teenaged boy's fantasy: Lots of females, most of them extra top heavy, and a higher than usual probability to get naughty with other girls.

Granted, I don't have any problems with lesbianism (I'd prove it, but may actually cause a ton of trouble, so I won't), it's just that it's becoming much too overused, and the comic's main focus has shifted a lot. I used to see a fairly diverse set of characters, but now it focuses almost entirely on Kath, Atsali, and Castela. Which is fine, don't get me wrong. But of those three, two are old enough (disregarding for a moment that Castela has only just been made aware of her real age), two are in same-sex relationships.

Though, for all I know, Kath may actually end up in a poly relationship with that faun and a guy (or two, who knows). That'd be something new and different, though it could become hard to keep track of everyone and everything.

Seriously, I forget a LOT of the side stuff. Like the mermaids, or that teacher who told the student she had to give warning that she was running through the halls. But I remember that Shelly plays bass for Fermented Banana...

Alkarii wrote:What I mean about there being so many lesbians that it's getting annoying, is that it's becoming cliché. It's almost like it's becoming a teenaged boy's fantasy: Lots of females, most of them extra top heavy, and a higher than usual probability to get naughty with other girls.

Granted, I don't have any problems with lesbianism (I'd prove it, but may actually cause a ton of trouble, so I won't), it's just that it's becoming much too overused, and the comic's main focus has shifted a lot. I used to see a fairly diverse set of characters, but now it focuses almost entirely on Kath, Atsali, and Castela. Which is fine, don't get me wrong. But of those three, two are old enough (disregarding for a moment that Castela has only just been made aware of her real age), two are in same-sex relationships.

Though, for all I know, Kath may actually end up in a poly relationship with that faun and a guy (or two, who knows). That'd be something new and different, though it could become hard to keep track of everyone and everything.

Seriously, I forget a LOT of the side stuff. Like the mermaids, or that teacher who told the student she had to give warning that she was running through the halls. But I remember that Shelly plays bass for Fermented Banana...

I kinda think of it like, giving us something that so many things don't.

I mean if you had to name 100 straight couples across all media it'd be easy.

100 lesbian couples though? I'm not even sure there are that many.

Is your problem with the current 'outing' of all characters, forgot Atsali's boy-crush turned out to be into boys too; the use of sexual McGuffin to stall/fill a lack of progress story-wise; or what you seem to mention as a stooping of level to titillating female with a high buyonacy?.

It's kind of hard to figure it out.

Hetero relationships are more cliché than anything else. Focus on cisgendered hetero males is way WAY more prevalent in comics, both physical and web, and WAY more prevalent in any and all entertainment mediums.
Even porn.

So what if Wapsi Square is more focused on lesbians now. It's one of few compared to the oodles and oodles and oodles of tv shows, movies, Internet videos, books, comics, songs, and poems that focus on and conform to medieval, outdated portrayals of sex, sexuality, gender identity, and gender roles.

I will say Wapsi is not a demographically accurate portrayal of every single type of gendersexwhatever on the spectrum. I'll agree that the focus has shifted. I'll even agree that hey, the situations presented in the comic (single woman adopts two daughters, one is bi, and the woman is lesbian or possibly Bi) are very unlikely. (Not to mention all of the paranormal stuff, but that's entirely beside the point.)

But the purpose of Wapsi is not to provide a character set that is representative of the human population in the same way as a test group and a control group in a scientific study.

Considering the sociopolitical leanings of the author, I'd say the purpose of the comic, as it always has been, is to show the issues women deal with and the problems and challenges they face in their lives and to put a spotlight on the wonderful amazing people women can be. And provide some entertainment and art, too. If nothing else, Wapsi Square is helping to balance out the enormous bias toward cisgendered male main characters in hetero relationships.

Ok, y'know what, I'm vacillating on this topic. Wapsi Square might be filling a void, but then again, I'm swinging between that viewpoint and the "Wapsi Square could stand to be more representitive of the diversity of the IRL population"

Can't really decide on one or the other. It's like two equally virtuous purposes, but they both have flaws in equal intensity and number.

I is are confuzzled.

GlytchMeister wrote:Ok, y'know what, I'm vacillating on this topic. Wapsi Square might be filling a void, but then again, I'm swinging between that viewpoint and the "Wapsi Square could stand to be more representitive of the diversity of the IRL population"

Can't really decide on one or the other. It's like two equally virtuous purposes, but they both have flaws in equal intensity and number.

I is are confuzzled.

Sounds as if you are approaching an FASEG event.

...huh?

Well, see... When the same thing is repeated for so many characters, the effect isn't as great anymore. It kind of cheapens it, if that makes any sense. While the cast of any work of fiction should have some common ground or common traits, too many things in common means that there is less that sets them apart. Quirks are part of what makes a character interesting.

Think of the characters as ice cream. You can either have one brand that has a ton of different flavors, or you can go with the same flavor, getting variety only from the different brands making that one flavor. The recipe will differ, of course, but not by much.

Or, if I may put it this way.

The first time is delish; the nth time... taste like chicken

It's going to depend on how things develop.

I don't recall any prior firm indications of Katherine's gender-identity or sexual activity/awareness.

--FreeFlier

Drakkenmensch wrote:

ChattaStarhawk wrote:

TheDOCTOR wrote:One of those "What happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas" - type deals?

Since it was sort of posted in 'Parabook', not so much...

I imagine that the really juicy stuff wouldn't be posted there, unless parabook is less like facebook and more like pornhub...

If that were the case, what is Atsali doing looking at it? She'd underaged!!! LOL

AnotherFairportfan wrote: Sounds as if you are approaching an FASEG event.

Fairy Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Godmothers.

After i posted that, i googled to see if i could find the article, but i couldn't.

It involved a large number of coaches placed between two untenable positions; eventually, one coach decayed to its pumpkin ground state, emitting a godmother, who flitted back and forth between the untenable positions, stimulating more coaches to decay...

TheDOCTOR wrote:One of those "What happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas" - type deals?

ChattaStarhawk wrote:Since it was sort of posted in 'Parabook', not so much...

Drakkenmensch wrote:I imagine that the really juicy stuff wouldn't be posted there, unless parabook is less like facebook and more like pornhub...

DilyV wrote:If that were the case, what is Atsali doing looking at it? She'd underaged!!! LOL

Atsali is a senior in high school . . . do you really think she doesn't have some kind of access to porn if she wants it?

--FreeFlier

GlytchMeister wrote:Can't really decide on one or the other. It's like two equally virtuous purposes, but they both have flaws in equal intensity and number.

I is are confuzzled.

You is afflicted with antinomy.

Dave wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:Can't really decide on one or the other. It's like two equally virtuous purposes, but they both have flaws in equal intensity and number.

I is are confuzzled.

You is afflicted with antinomy.

Well at least I now have a good word for it.

Alkarii wrote:Well, see... When the same thing is repeated for so many characters, the effect isn't as great anymore. It kind of cheapens it, if that makes any sense. While the cast of any work of fiction should have some common ground or common traits, too many things in common means that there is less that sets them apart. Quirks are part of what makes a character interesting.

Think of the characters as ice cream. You can either have one brand that has a ton of different flavors, or you can go with the same flavor, getting variety only from the different brands making that one flavor. The recipe will differ, of course, but not by much.

I guess it depends on if you're getting your diversity kicks by going through a bunch of comics that each have a different focus or if you want one comic with no sociopolitical focus (kind of an unattainable ideal I would think, that's a LOT of ground to cover and everyone has bias, so the author would have to counteract theirs), or at least very few comics that cover a broader range of characters.