Predats And Bevies 2016-04-20

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GlytchMeister wrote:I kinda thought at least some predators wouldn't eat something they didn't kill in case it might make them sick.

Not sure though. What you say makes all kinds of sense.
There are a few, but most scavange.

Which makes sense . . . if it's already dead, it's less likely to injure you by fighting back.

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GlytchMeister wrote:I kinda thought at least some predators wouldn't eat something they didn't kill in case it might make them sick.

Not sure though. What you say makes all kinds of sense.
One reason Ben Franklin held out for the turkey instead of the bald eagle was that the bald eagle gets a good part of its food by stealing ospreys and other smaller raptors kills.
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FreeFlier wrote:
Hanineal wrote:I just assumed it was short for herbivore.
My guess too, though it doesn't seem quite right . . .
Well, they tried a more obvious term, but Principal Herbert objected. :mrgreen:
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Nah - Disney threatened to sue for trademark infringement.
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AnotherFairportfan wrote:Nah - Disney threatened to sue for trademark infringement.
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GlytchMeister wrote:I kinda thought at least some predators wouldn't eat something they didn't kill in case it might make them sick.

Not sure though. What you say makes all kinds of sense.
I've heard that some of the pit-viper snakes are like that. They hunt by smell, and by their IR sensors (in the "pits" in their noses). If it isn't warm and moving, it isn't prey and thus isn't food.

I imagine that snakes have rather less of a sense of urgency about eating than mammal predators do... they can go for a lot longer without a meal.
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jwhouk wrote:
AnotherFairportfan wrote:Nah - Disney threatened to sue for trademark infringement.
"I understand that reference."
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"Herbie the Love Bug", I think...
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Dave wrote:"Herbie the Love Bug", I think...
yep
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AnotherFairportfan wrote: One reason Ben Franklin held out for the turkey instead of the bald eagle was that the bald eagle gets a good part of its food by stealing ospreys and other smaller raptors kills.
In some ways, that's a pretty apt metaphor for the US.
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Dave wrote:
Akeche wrote:Realistically in a modern age nobody is eating anybody else in the para community. Sphinxes are... well I've not seen any except for Phix and Shelly and something tells me Shelly has a fridge stocked with meat.

You don't become a modernized civilization without having more reliable sources of food than "You made me mad, so I'll eat you."
That's the sort of incident that the "no paras in contact sports" rule is there to avoid.
Sorry, didn't want to tack everything onto my reply.

If this is the case, how is it that the Predators haven't been "dealt with?" We have a way of dealing with humans who can't control themselves, at least in most societies, and in the end the one who cannot control themselves end up either secluded until they die or put to death far more quickly. Sometimes this world that Paul has made just doesn't make any sense, it shouldn't even be able to function the way it is. There are no checks and balances beyond a fear of letting the Normies see you Hulk Out. The MIB appear to just be normal people occasionally commanded by a more human-like Para, and don't seem to have any real sway or power beyond covering things up.

By comparison I'll point to the Fables comic series. You have a whole host of creatures and various supernatural/unnatural beings, mixed in with a few who are basically normal people, all who have created a community that keeps itself hidden from the rest of the world quite well. The bad apples? They don't clean up their act, and The Big Bad Wolf turned Sheriff gets them. Whether that means imprisonment or being killed all depends on the severity. Obviously anyone who has read the comics or even played the TellTale game knows that community isn't perfect, but the one the Paras have in the Wapsi World seems far more out of control.

Edit: I guess the crux of my argument is. Even a Sphinx should be scared of fucking up and losing their cool too much. If it's meant to be a modern and stable society, this whole predator thing should be in check better than "Oh we just keep them separated cause haha y'know how pred kids can get, right?"
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Dave wrote:
meisdadoo wrote:So I'm not sure what group Nadette would be in, as bears don't travel in herds/schools/flocks, neither are they known for their hunting skills. More of a scavenger/forager, so there's that.
Being sort of in the middle, diet-wise, the bear-folk might be the "centrists" and diplomats of the para world.

That could leave them subject to bribery, though. We have yet to see Nadette and Berdine be truly tested... it could turn out that pick-a-nic baskets are their kryptonite. :D
well I guess people like them may be the 'highly evolved' part of wild bears... they managed to 'morph' into something else, to hide away from predators...
much like primates developed a way to feed more efficiently, to get enough energy to enable a higher brain to outwit their predators, instead of having to fight them! :)
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illiad wrote:
Dave wrote:
meisdadoo wrote:So I'm not sure what group Nadette would be in, as bears don't travel in herds/schools/flocks, neither are they known for their hunting skills. More of a scavenger/forager, so there's that.
Being sort of in the middle, diet-wise, the bear-folk might be the "centrists" and diplomats of the para world.

That could leave them subject to bribery, though. We have yet to see Nadette and Berdine be truly tested... it could turn out that pick-a-nic baskets are their kryptonite. :D
well I guess people like them may be the 'highly evolved' part of wild bears... they managed to 'morph' into something else, to hide away from predators...
much like primates developed a way to feed more efficiently, to get enough energy to enable a higher brain to outwit their predators, instead of having to fight them! :)
I have encountered many bears- none of them possessed what I would call 'diplomatic skills'.
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Sgt. Howard wrote:I have encountered many bears- none of them possessed what I would call 'diplomatic skills'.
Hey... they usually poop in the woods, rather than in your home. That's better than a lot of human diplomats seem to manage!
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Dave wrote:
Sgt. Howard wrote:I have encountered many bears- none of them possessed what I would call 'diplomatic skills'.
Hey... they usually poop in the woods, rather than in your home. That's better than a lot of human diplomats seem to manage!
We're not talking about the old Soviet Union here...
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Dave wrote:"Herbie the Love Bug", I think...
DING DING DING DING.
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I think the Sphinxes are indeed scared of revealing themselves to humans.

Spiders get defeated by ants. The same thing would happen in Sphinx's versus Humans. Especially nuclear-armed humans... if it went that far and the wrong politician gets a head full of steam.

Humans are extremely intelligent ants compared to how sphinxes are apex predators.

And even for the immortal beings, we can still cause so much grief to them via their loved ones that AREN'T immortal they won't want to mess with us and reveal themselves.

Anything that isn't related in a positive way to an abrahamic religion's mythology would set off pretty much the entire species. So if a Sphinx is seen and the rest of the human species agrees, we humans will all be put on alert. And that will be the slippery slope to humanity preparing for war as a whole.
Humans would totally freak out if they suddenly found out there are dangerous supernatural and paranormal beings hiding under their noses.

MIB and the Library seem to be best buddies, and I would hazard to guess MIB does more than just "cover up." Justin once spoke of more freaky paranormals, like his ex girlfriends, and I think Shelly said "we aren't all like that, most of us aren't like that" or something along those lines. Somebody said the crazies were on the fringe of paranormal society.

If the para society has a fringe where the crazies hang out, that sort of implies the core of said society has rules and laws and stuff that the crazies don't want to follow or obey, and they can't stick around in the main body of the society because they will suffer consequences.

That seems like there is something that polices the paras, and I'd bet a bottle of soda it's the MIB, as it's already an agency in place with a precedent mission statement of "keep things running smoothly" by Jin, who was their singlehanded predecessor.

"Keeping things running smoothly" requires everyone or almost everyone to behave, and that doesn't happen without a damn good force keeping everyone in line. Cops backed up by the threat of a global war between humans and Paras probably have the chutzpah to make almost everyone behave themselves.

As for the weirdness surrounding predatory instincts: it seems to me kids and adults who are new to being paranormal (recently metamorphosed) have the most trouble controlling their nature. And it's kind of unreasonable to expect kids to have an iron grip on themselves. Kids are stupid. They're gonna freak out and get their paranormal groove on because they don't have the self-control required to not do so.
Gryphon School has already been established to have lessons or overarching requirements involving the development of control over paranormal natures. Kids have to maintain human appearance, have to hold their Glamours when in intense physical activity (see the swimming lesson), yadda yadda yadda.

I think what we haven't seen are the majority of paras that have no trouble controlling themselves.
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Skywatcher68 wrote::penny drops:

Ah! Adler has been trying to pull a reverse Bellwether.
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illiad wrote: well I guess people like them may be the 'highly evolved' part of wild bears... they managed to 'morph' into something else, to hide away from predators...
much like primates developed a way to feed more efficiently, to get enough energy to enable a higher brain to outwit their predators, instead of having to fight them! :)
Wonder if they're related to the bears camping on the Bluegrass Parkway's median...
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