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Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:...throwing knives? Huh?

YOU don't have any?

I just don't like the math of them. They're half blade and half handle, and they only get good penetration if they impact within oh, 30° +/- of the point of the blade going straight in. So, 60/360=16.666...% chance of useful penetration.

That leaves 83.333...% chance of the knife simply bouncing off of the target.

I would say fights are easier to win when I don't give my opponents my weapons.

Shrunken seem far more reliable, as they are radially bladed, but the design doesn't give the same penetration as a knife. The round shape isn't that great for stabbing. All shuriken do is make the opponent bleed a bit and annoy them. They perform better if they're laden with poison, but that's too slow in a fight, and I would tend to avoid killing when I can help it.

Usually, I'd say that if I am in need of long range weaponry, I'm probably not doing my job right. I would prefer to sneak up behind people trying to shoot me and thump 'em on the head with my trusty pipe. If I absolutely can't do that, I'd borrow one of my buddy's rifles and shoot people in the knees and elbows.

This message is brought to you by the phrase... "Hypothetically speaking."

I think it more like she got left out, she wasnt invited, they messed up so a few well placed whispers and watch the fun. They are after all twins and some people do react poorly to to others coming between them. Sorta like the old song from "White Christmas" Sisters.

GlytchMeister wrote:

Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:...throwing knives? Huh?

YOU don't have any?

I just don't like the math of them. They're half blade and half handle, and they only get good penetration if they impact within oh, 30° +/- of the point of the blade going straight in. So, 60/360=16.666...% chance of useful penetration.

That leaves 83.333...% chance of the knife simply bouncing off of the target.

I would say fights are easier to win when I don't give my opponents my weapons.

Shrunken seem far more reliable, as they are radially bladed, but the design doesn't give the same penetration as a knife. The round shape isn't that great for stabbing. All shuriken do is make the opponent bleed a bit and annoy them. They perform better if they're laden with poison, but that's too slow in a fight, and I would tend to avoid killing when I can help it.

Usually, I'd say that if I am in need of long range weaponry, I'm probably not doing my job right. I would prefer to sneak up behind people trying to shoot me and thump 'em on the head with my trusty pipe. If I absolutely can't do that, I'd borrow one of my buddy's rifles and shoot people in the knees and elbows.

This message is brought to you by the phrase... "Hypothetically speaking."

The only problem with trying to sneak up and pop someone is if you are successful all you have accomplished is they wake up later ticked off with a grudge and a desire for revenge. When faced with any situation near what you describe your best options are to either deal with it in such a way that there is no chance your opponent is able to or at lest has no desire to see you again. The other option is to get the hell out of dodge.

As for the railgun how did you solve the power requirrents problem? I cant seem to generate more than 34 megajoules and you need at lest 64 for orbital targets. Also there is the recharge lag for the capacitors limiting me to a fire rate of once per minute, which is not acceptable. I will also see your spinning knives and engine blocks with a 7 pound cylinder of plastic with ball bearings suspended inside.

oldmanmickey wrote: The only problem with trying to sneak up and pop someone is if you are successful all you have accomplished is they wake up later ticked off with a grudge and a desire for revenge. When faced with any situation near what you describe your best options are to either deal with it in such a way that there is no chance your opponent is able to or at lest has no desire to see you again. The other option is to get the hell out of dodge.

Thats what the hood is for. In especially dangerous situations, I would also wear a bandanna over my lower face. It would be hard to exact revenge on someone if you don't even know what that someone looks like... Let alone who they are.

Of course, they could also just get out and cause trouble again to lure me into an ambush, but I would tend to be extremely careful and a little less forgiving with repeat offenders.

oldmanmickey wrote:I think it more like she got left out, she wasnt invited, they messed up so a few well placed whispers and watch the fun. They are after all twins and some people do react poorly to to others coming between them. Sorta like the old song from "White Christmas" Sisters.

I love that movie!

The next question is how much did Berdine actually tell people? Is it just that Atsali and Nadette spent much of their days together, or did she also let slip that they spent at least one night together unsupervised?

And did the "I dumped out all that eggnog" ploy actually work?

GlytchMeister wrote:

oldmanmickey wrote: The only problem with trying to sneak up and pop someone is if you are successful all you have accomplished is they wake up later ticked off with a grudge and a desire for revenge. When faced with any situation near what you describe your best options are to either deal with it in such a way that there is no chance your opponent is able to or at lest has no desire to see you again. The other option is to get the hell out of dodge.

Thats what the hood is for. In especially dangerous situations, I would also wear a bandanna over my lower face. It would be hard to exact revenge on someone if you don't even know what that someone looks like... Let alone who they are.

Of course, they could also just get out and cause trouble again to lure me into an ambush, but I would tend to be extremely careful and a little less forgiving with repeat offenders.

and the problem with that good sir id you have still created the urge for revenge and you have not given them a target thus those type of people tend to pick the weakest target to retaliate against. Which if you just seeking to cya would be a good thing i guess but not something i could personally live with.

DinkyInky wrote:

oldmanmickey wrote:I think it more like she got left out, she wasnt invited, they messed up so a few well placed whispers and watch the fun. They are after all twins and some people do react poorly to to others coming between them. Sorta like the old song from "White Christmas" Sisters.

I love that movie!

That is one of the Christmas treats i give myself, watching some of those old movies.

oldmanmickey wrote:

DinkyInky wrote:

oldmanmickey wrote:I think it more like she got left out, she wasnt invited, they messed up so a few well placed whispers and watch the fun. They are after all twins and some people do react poorly to to others coming between them. Sorta like the old song from "White Christmas" Sisters.

I love that movie!

That is one of the Christmas treats i give myself, watching some of those old movies.

I generally find that even the relatively bad Danny Kaye movies are enjoyable in some way or another. Or else I've just missed out on the really bad ones. And White Christmas certainly isn't one of the relatively bad ones.

well we will have to wait until tomorrow...

GlytchMeister wrote:

Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:...throwing knives? Huh?

YOU don't have any?

I just don't like the math of them. They're half blade and half handle, and they only get good penetration if they impact within oh, 30° +/- of the point of the blade going straight in. So, 60/360=16.666...% chance of useful penetration.

That leaves 83.333...% chance of the knife simply bouncing off of the target.

That's dealt with by adjusting the spin so that the knife reaches the target tip-forward.

Throwing knives are balanced as sets so that they all spin at the same rate.

GlytchMeister wrote:I would say fights are easier to win when I don't give my opponents my weapons.

Shrunken seem far more reliable, as they are radially bladed, but the design doesn't give the same penetration as a knife. The round shape isn't that great for stabbing. All shuriken do is make the opponent bleed a bit and annoy them. They perform better if they're laden with poison, but that's too slow in a fight, and I would tend to avoid killing when I can help it.

Shuriken and throwing knives are really distraction devices, . . . your enemy is a little easier to get up-close-and-personal with if he's busy swearing and trying to pull out the knife/shuriken you just stuck into him.

OTOH, If I'm going to throw a weapon, an axe works better . . . more mass and you should be able to develop higher velocity too.

Gripping hand, grenades are even better thrown weapons.

GlytchMeister wrote:Usually, I'd say that if I am in need of long range weaponry, I'm probably not doing my job right. I would prefer to sneak up behind people trying to shoot me and thump 'em on the head with my trusty pipe. If I absolutely can't do that, I'd borrow one of my buddy's rifles and shoot people in the knees and elbows.

"Bird Dog, this is Bravo Two-Six . . . I have a target."

(Bird Dog is a generic call sign for a Forward Air Controller . . . the guy that controls an air strike.)

Catawampus wrote:The next question is how much did Berdine actually tell people? Is it just that Atsali and Nadette spent much of their days together, or did she also let slip that they spent at least one night together unsupervised?

Or did Berdine just tell Abbie "The next time you see Atsali, call her . . .

Catawampus wrote:And did the "I dumped out all that eggnog" ploy actually work?

Or was it "Okay, I'll accept that . . . I don't believe it, but I'll accept it."?

--FreeFlier

Wapsi wrote:

Raventhorne wrote:

eee wrote:Nobody's concerned about the new throwing knives? That's normal? Even for Wapsi Square?

OK.

We didn't know much about Abbie before. But we're learning.

why would you worry about the throwing knives, what she can do is much, much, more painful and scary if she gets upset or suffers a anxiety breakdown... throwing knives are the least of are concerns,besides it would be quicker if she used them on us if we got sucked into her world tp say the least

You're thinking of Devyn. This is Abbie. She's a free Familiar (canine).

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Wait, WHAT? You're saying Abbie is a DOG? She used to be somebody's Familiar (or she avoided Conjure or Summon Familiar completely) and now she's running around loose? With THROWING KNIVES???

Sonya Henie's Tutu!!

GlytchMeister wrote:

Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:...throwing knives? Huh?

YOU don't have any?

I just don't like the math of them. They're half blade and half handle, and they only get good penetration if they impact within oh, 30° +/- of the point of the blade going straight in. So, 60/360=16.666...% chance of useful penetration.

That leaves 83.333...% chance of the knife simply bouncing off of the target.

I would say fights are easier to win when I don't give my opponents my weapons.

Shrunken seem far more reliable, as they are radially bladed, but the design doesn't give the same penetration as a knife. The round shape isn't that great for stabbing. All shuriken do is make the opponent bleed a bit and annoy them. They perform better if they're laden with poison, but that's too slow in a fight, and I would tend to avoid killing when I can help it.

Usually, I'd say that if I am in need of long range weaponry, I'm probably not doing my job right. I would prefer to sneak up behind people trying to shoot me and thump 'em on the head with my trusty pipe. If I absolutely can't do that, I'd borrow one of my buddy's rifles and shoot people in the knees and elbows.

This message is brought to you by the phrase... "Hypothetically speaking."

Glytch- sometimes, it's about finesse,

eee wrote:Wait, WHAT? You're saying Abbie is a DOG? She used to be somebody's Familiar (or she avoided Conjure or Summon Familiar completely) and now she's running around loose? With THROWING KNIVES???

Sonya Henie's Tutu!!

... uh, yeah... that's what Paul said... you seem to think this is a problem?

Finesse? From the man who exploded meth labs?

And I still don't understand how throwing knives even became part of the discussion, I don't remember them ever being mentioned in the comic.

GlytchMeister wrote:Finesse? From the man who exploded meth labs?

Ah, but the means by which I did it was pure poetry...

GlytchMeister wrote:And I still don't understand how throwing knives even became part of the discussion, I don't remember them ever being mentioned in the comic.

Abbie got a set for Christmas

Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:And I still don't understand how throwing knives even became part of the discussion, I don't remember them ever being mentioned in the comic.

Abbie got a set for Christmas

Yeah, I had to take a second look myself, after that first reference.

She says it so nonchalantly.

jwhouk wrote:

Sgt. Howard wrote:

GlytchMeister wrote:And I still don't understand how throwing knives even became part of the discussion, I don't remember them ever being mentioned in the comic.

Abbie got a set for Christmas

Yeah, I had to take a second look myself, after that first reference.

She says it so nonchalantly.

Everybody is acting like this is a big deal- it is a fun thing to learn and has actually come in handy for me on a few occasions. Both of my boys have a set... my ex got all manner of excited when she found out I was teaching the girls, but wasn't much she could do... Bekah still practices, but Shelly gave it up.