KnightDelight wrote:Could it be Kath is about to steal away while Atsali provides a diversion? And I mean leave Atsali behind to boot so as to protect her from further harm? Not telling her how to get in the copter may be a clue she didn't actually want her to do any real damage, just keep them busy while she fumbles about trying to get in. At least Atsali could tie the rope to the landing rails to slow them down some.
OTOH, if Kath climbs out, can she get down from that rock (or mesa or whatever it is) without Atsali to fly her? Has she found another way out after all? Only one more comic to go, the dreaded cliffhanger Friday so something iffy should happen.
Kinda like the Ewok that stole the speeder bike in The Return of the Jedi. *cue music from that scene* ... aaaaaaand... ACTION!!!
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:48 am
by DilyV
My2Cents wrote:In the 1st frame it looks like Atsali has a couple holes torn in her top for the wings to go through. Makes sense, unless she has a magic wardrobe.
In the 3rd frame it looks like Atsali is trailing a rope. I expect Kathryn is busy climbing it as we speak.
OK, Atasli is suppose to get into the Apache, probably to try to disable it. Please tell me that Kathryn is NOT going to steal the Blackhawk, that girl has to have some limits!
While it may very well be a rope, I don't think they had any with them... unless you count the rapelling ropes, but those would have went away when the chopers flew off to land... in my opinion, it could be... well, watch this... it'll explain everything... LOL
You see the straight line of the intended path... I think the curved lines represent the fact that Atsali is showing off a little.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:26 am
by kingklash
I wonder, is one of Katherine's instructions: "Just be Atsali"? That would work really well.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:32 am
by Opus the Poet
I have flown a chopper, and it is not something that can be done without some training. Thing is Atsali is the perfect kamikaze chopper pilot because she can dive away from the "bird" and deploy her wings when she's far enough from the rotors and downwash to be safe flying. So get in the attack chopper and shoot up the Blackhawk, then bail from the Apache and let it crash temporarily stranding the MIB, then fly away under her own power carrying Kath. Of course all this assumes that she understands the controls and how to aim and fire the guns... But then she could be an experienced gamer that quickly acclimates to new control systems which could have her in perfect control of the chopper in a few seconds.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:13 pm
by Fairportfan
Just hit me - the door behind her is open - but there are two choppers.
Perhaps the plan is to do something with the OTHER one, and that's the one Katharine didn't tell her enough about...
Fairportfan wrote:Just hit me - the door behind her is open - but there are two choppers.
Perhaps the plan is to do something with the OTHER one, and that's the one Katharine didn't tell her enough about...
Maybe. But the chopper she is near is the only one that can carry more than one or two people. If they disable that one then the other has to remain to make sure the rest of them car be found again. the other could abandon them but lily is more than likely the boss of them. It will depend on her choice of what to do. They want to help, not wipe them out.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:10 pm
by Wdot
I was just thinking that Kath's plan was so detailed it had everything but how to open the door in the directions. That was my take on it anyhow.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:28 pm
by MerchManDan
Seems like Atsali is about to play "Grand Theft Autogyro: Mesa Verde."
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:01 pm
by sheik
DilyV wrote:
Jabberwonky wrote:
My2Cents wrote:To disable the helicopter I would suggest that she loop the rope a couple times around the main and tail rotors and tie it. Won’t stop them for long, but probably enough. Alternatively she could take a dump on the pilots seat. Think about it, he runs to start the chopper, opens the hatch, and is jumping in just as the odor hits him. Bet its a hot day, too.
But that's giving a man with a GAU-8 a reason to really, really dislike you...
GAU-8 is the A-10... The Apache is armed with the M230 Chann Gun. Single Single Barrel, and sighted by the IHDSS (the helmet with the little monocular thingie).
Yeah, big difference.
The M230 fires a mix of HE and AP, the GAU-8 fires strictly DU; not exactly the best choice for soft targets.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:05 pm
by sheik
I don't think sabotage per se is the objective.
After all, docking a researcher's pay to cover what could be millions of dollars of damage is deterrence enough.
I think distraction is the real point.
Like someone else mentioned, we don't know what Ms Gilchrist is up to at this moment.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:07 pm
by DilyV
sheik wrote:Yeah, big difference.
The M230 fires a mix of HE and AP, the GAU-8 fires strictly DU; not exactly the best choice for soft targets.
Heh... Have you seen what it does to soft targets? Can you say swiss cheese?
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:17 pm
by My2Cents
sheik wrote:The M230 fires a mix of HE and AP, the GAU-8 fires strictly DU; not exactly the best choice for soft targets.
Standard anti-armor mix for the GAU-8 4xAPI + 1xHEI. After OIF I imagine they were using the reverse (1xAPI + 4xHEI), since there is no armor vehicles t0 hit.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:30 pm
by jwhouk
All I know is, big guns go BOOM and make fresh meat real quick.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:15 pm
by ChattaStarhawk
Uh, gang? She's next to the Apache, not the Blackhawk.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:31 pm
by Hansontoons
DilyV wrote:
sheik wrote:Yeah, big difference.
The M230 fires a mix of HE and AP, the GAU-8 fires strictly DU; not exactly the best choice for soft targets.
Heh... Have you seen what it does to soft targets? Can you say swiss cheese?
Snort!
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:03 pm
by RunningBull
I have no idea if it would be possible, but what if she drained the fuel tank? That would ground a chopper wouldn't it? And there would be no actual damage.
Re: Do the Decoy 2013-03-28
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:08 am
by zachariah
RunningBull wrote:I have no idea if it would be possible, but what if she drained the fuel tank? That would ground a chopper wouldn't it? And there would be no actual damage.
Nice thought but finding where the drain valve is will be difficult for anyone who doesn't know how they are put together. Most of the fuel tanks are hardened as well so simple puncture is not in the plan. Likewise pulling a fuel hose out is out too. The tanks and hoses are designed to take abuse and keep delivering fuel. Remember Choppers do not glide very well. They auto-rotate into the ground.
