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Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:47 am
by Jabberwonky
Yamara wrote:Poor Phix.
What Would Honey West Do?
EDIT: Rowr.jpeg
I thought it was Kevin's responsibility to 'pet the ocelot'.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:52 am
by TlalocW
What would Honey Boo Boo do? Never mind.

Anyway, that's a pretty impressive backhand. It didn't just turn Phix's head but her whole body. But can Jaguar Girl take a punch?

TlalocW

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:02 am
by Yamara
TlalocW wrote:What would Honey Boo Boo do?
Oh, be very very tasty. Yes. I think she's ready for her culinary show debut.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:07 am
by kingklash
I can see where Moni is coming from. They pretty much dropped her behind the wheel of a powerful and complicated machine, not even with the benefit of a driver's manual. Add this whole "You're just a lowly Human, you can't understand why we all can act less-than-evolved, because you aren't as advanced as us." thing So M is going to put on her war paint, and talk to them on their level, even if comes to blows.

But, it might not be a good idea to cat-fight someone who just may know where her Off button is.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:20 am
by TheDOCTOR
I don't know if I like this Monica.Then again I don't think Monica likes what she is becoming.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:46 pm
by Yamara
Monica is understandably... upset. The Bibiothiki operates as it does for a reason: if you're too angry or "unworthy", the books turn to dust in your hands. The knowledge is not destroyed, but it is denied. This is a civilizing function, and something Phix seems to have been wrestling with for thousands of years.
Wyvern wrote:As I pointed out on Facebook, one is invulnerable and the other is unkillable. This could go on a while.
That's what us game designers refer to as "broken". However, Phix can, in theory, eject her at will.

Nudge might get a vote, but she can change her mind over time. The Bibliothiki itself can probably overrule them, though.

So... yes. An eternal, unwinnable fight would be one definition of Limbo.
CraigR wrote:
Boxilar wrote:I think the proper classification we're looking for is "god".
To be a 'god' you need worshippers. Monica has fangirls (Euryale, Lily, Suzie), but no worshippers, hence the sub-titan classification. Perhaps it also denotes less focus than a standard god (whatever that might be)
Bolding mine. Yeah, I think you'll find worship and fanaticism are... on the same spectrum. And not every definition of 'god' requires worship, even in the Hellenic pantheon.

Power can be innate, but there is also the concept of authority, which by definition requires rules and adhering to them.

If divine power is not innate, or its authority disrespected, though, mortals might find...


Well. No sense getting ahead of ourselves.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:47 pm
by KnightDelight
Huh, I just noticed. Now it's Monica's fist that has the lisp.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:02 pm
by DilyV
Phix: You HIT me!

M: Yup... you gonna listen now?

Phix: Didn't hurt...

M: Did too.

Phix: Did not.

M: Yuh huh... want another to test out my theory?

Phix: Uhhhh... I'm listening...

LOL

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
by illiad
Wyvern wrote:As I pointed out on Facebook, one is invulnerable and the other is unkillable. This could go on a while.
um, and the difference is??? :)

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:58 pm
by Leak
Yamara wrote:
Wyvern wrote:As I pointed out on Facebook, one is invulnerable and the other is unkillable. This could go on a while.
That's what us game designers refer to as "broken".
Bah - it's just "unstoppable force" vs. "immoveable object" all over again... and again... and again... :)

np: New Order - Hellbent (Lost Sirens)

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:43 pm
by Wyvern
Yamara wrote:
CraigR wrote:To be a 'god' you need worshippers. Monica has fangirls (Euryale, Lily, Suzie), but no worshippers, hence the sub-titan classification. Perhaps it also denotes less focus than a standard god (whatever that might be)
Bolding mine. Yeah, I think you'll find worship and fanaticism are... on the same spectrum. And not every definition of 'god' requires worship, even in the Hellenic pantheon.

Power can be innate, but there is also the concept of authority, which by definition requires rules and adhering to them.

We have some "gods" already in the strip, and not many current worshipers. Tepoztecal is the god of pulque, and shows his power, but nobody in Minneapolis worships Tepoz. Kukulcan, Tochtli, Mayahuel, Charon, and Epimethius are known in mythology. Some of those have mentioned not actually being gods, but worship seems to be optional at best.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:38 pm
by NebulousRikulau
TlalocW wrote: But can Jaguar Girl take a punch?
Probably. She handled the face-off well enough.

(tosses a quarter in the pun jar. Heads up.)

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:08 pm
by Jürgen A. Erhard
KnightDelight wrote:Huh, I just noticed. Now it's Monica's fist that has the lisp.
You're right! Sly bastard, this Pablo person.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:47 am
by My2Cents
Wyvern wrote:We have some "gods" already in the strip, and not many current worshipers. Tepoztecal is the god of pulque, and shows his power, but nobody in Minneapolis worships Tepoz.
Gods tend to take on a lot names in different times and places. Like Zeus and Jupiter. The key is their reason for existence, i.e. Z and J are storm gods.

Tepoz is the god of alcohol, not just beer. There are lots of people who worhsip beer , wine, booze, etc. out there. He’s fine.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:35 am
by Wyvern
My2Cents wrote:
Wyvern wrote:We have some "gods" already in the strip, and not many current worshipers. Tepoztecal is the god of pulque, and shows his power, but nobody in Minneapolis worships Tepoz.
Gods tend to take on a lot names in different times and places. Like Zeus and Jupiter. The key is their reason for existence, i.e. Z and J are storm gods.

Tepoz is the god of alcohol, not just beer. There are lots of people who worhsip beer , wine, booze, etc. out there. He’s fine.

Sure. Of course, Tepoz is also a golem; Mayahuel is hanging around modern Minneapolis and she made Tepoz. That whole "power over anything containing alcohol" is a good god power, though - limited but not finite. Of course, while Tepoztecatl the alcohol god may have diversified, worship wise, it's less clear what Mayahuel or Tochtli could get; since they're golems too, they may not need anything from the rest of the world. Epimethius is a titan (in Greek mythology, the powers preceding the 'current' pantheon). Nudge seems to be a trickster god, but she'd open a Church of Elvis just for the yucks.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:16 am
by Jabberwonky
Wyvern wrote:EDIT: Well thought out concepts of Gods and gods.
Nudge seems to be a trickster god, but she'd open a Church of Elvis just for the yucks.
Hey! Let's not take the name of The King in vain.
Thank yuh!
(Finger Guns)

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:32 pm
by illiad
Jabberwonky wrote:
Wyvern wrote:EDIT: Well thought out concepts of Gods and gods.
Nudge seems to be a trickster god, but she'd open a Church of Elvis just for the yucks.
Hey! Let's not take the name of The King in vain.
Thank yuh!
(Finger Guns)
Hey I know there IS a church of Elvis in Portugal, at least... :mrgreen: not a building, but deffo a church... :D

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:36 pm
by KnightDelight
Wyvern wrote:Nudge seems to be a trickster god, but she'd open a Church of Elvis just for the yucks.
Actually, I don't think she would. Not for that reason, anyway. Nudge is a trickster, not a comedian. She doesn't do what she does to be funny. She does it to teach someone a lesson they need to learn. At least that's how it is in the Wapsiverse. That's not to say she doesn't have a sense of humor. She does the occasional little thing for the funny of it. Like removing Shelly's and Justin's "clothes" or fixing Creepy Girl's hair.

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:48 pm
by Fairportfan
KnightDelight wrote:
Wyvern wrote:Nudge seems to be a trickster god, but she'd open a Church of Elvis just for the yucks.
Actually, I don't think she would. Not for that reason, anyway. Nudge is a trickster, not a comedian. She doesn't do what she does to be funny. She does it to teach someone a lesson they need to learn. At least that's how it is in the Wapsiverse. That's not to say she doesn't have a sense of humor. She does the occasional little thing for the funny of it. Like removing Shelly's and Justin's "clothes" or fixing Creepy Girl's hair.
"We're gonna be roomies!"

Re: Listen to Me 2013-01-21

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:56 pm
by jwhouk
"Church of Elvis"?

This isn't Babylon 5, is it?