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Atomic wrote:Ok - we've know about the cheerleader incident -- when/where was the Shadow Monica incident?

Perhaps Cricket was taking out her anger privately after she met M and staged a show for her own vengeance / sublimation?

Close but no cigar.

Cricket has just come to the realization that while she made shadows do unspeakable things in order to defame her enemies, Monica was actually 'assualted' in an unspeakable manner. Looks like the little bug is developing empathy, which is HUGE for a fae.

Atomic-

I think what Cricket meant is that she made realistic visions of her enemies raping each other-- she took rape very lightly almost and used it as a form of punishment. And now she's learning that Monica HAS been raped and has been severely hurt by it, and it's REALLY hitting her that what she did was not okay and that rape is awful, because she's seeing someone who's been hurt by it and how hurt they have been. It's hit her that she made light of someone really serious and particularly serious to M and she feels awful for it.

It's like making rape jokes and finding out someone you really like has been raped when they burst into tears at you about it. You remember all those jokes you made and suddenly your stomach sinks and you feel like trash.

I don't think she ever made a Shadow Monica get raped.

The tar incident was before Cricket apparently was aware that there really is currently a living Jaguar Girl. Definitely before she was put under Monica's supervision. And it was in demonspace, which (as far as we know) Cricket wasn't aware existed before she met Monica.

The incident in the mental institution was probably before Cricket was born, and the real person directly responsible was definitively dealt with. (The system that allowed it, not so much.)

Cricket is clearly not responsible for either.

Warrl wrote:Cricket is clearly not responsible for either.

No, but she is responsible for something that's bound to have all kinds of triggers for Monica. That Mon would even attempt to help her after what she did is a huge deal indeed, and I suspect our little fae is feeling more than a tad bit unworthy. Also, sorry for having been so thoughtless. Also, many layers of other things she probably can't even unravel yet.

Part of the point is that Cricket still does not understand what Monica is telling her. The lights are on but no one is home kinda thing. Monica is still assuming there is enough common experience between them so that Cricket does understand. Cricket does not! Use simpler words. I doubt Cricket has even heard of PTSD. That is a non-concept to Fae after all so how could Cricket understand it?

Atomic wrote:Ok - we've know about the cheerleader incident -- when/where was the Shadow Monica incident?

Perhaps Cricket was taking out her anger privately after she met M and staged a show for her own vengeance / sublimation?

Cricket isn't saying she did anything to Monica - she's saying "...and you were raped."

They're both survivors, in different ways, of incidents of sexual violence.

I am having a little trouble seeing Cricket's reaction as natural. I can't quite put my finger on it though. She seems to whipsaw from being scared for her life, to watching some the scary demon lady babble incoherently, to giving her a sympathetic yet frightened (hard to read) hug. Somehow the final step does't quite ring true. Does it seem awkward or natural to you?

kingklash wrote:

Catawampus wrote:
Perhaps somebody ought to arrange a hug-off between Cricket and Euryale, for comparison. Or perhaps it's best that it isn't done, for the safety of the world.

Let those two hug each other, and I bet that anything placed between them would turn to diamonds almost as fast as if Bud had got her hands on it.

Diamond...no we're looking at crystalline hydrogen at those pressures!

Monica was always the star of the strip... and at these pressures she can look forward to being the quark star of the strip.

Kerric wrote:I am having a little trouble seeing Cricket's reaction as natural. I can't quite put my finger on it though. She seems to whipsaw from being scared for her life, to watching some the scary demon lady babble incoherently, to giving her a sympathetic yet frightened (hard to read) hug. Somehow the final step does't quite ring true. Does it seem awkward or natural to you?

It felt a bit strange to me as well, just because Cricket is about 95% effing terrified of Monica, and for good reason. First impressions, you know. And if her first meeting with Monica didn't traumatize her, the immediately subsequent Castela-stomping she got should have done the trick.

Cricket has to be feeling like she got set up on a blind date with a psychopath who has declared that they are now going out, and she can neither complain nor try to "break up" with the psychopath for fear of her life. Yay! Instant abusive relationship, complete with the occasional bit of sugar and sweetness to make the horrible parts all that more horrible by comparison.

Gavote wrote:Diamond...no we're looking at crystalline hydrogen at those pressures!

Actually... due to it's position on the Periodic Table of the Elements, it would be a Metal, not a Crystal...

I'm glad ScantronB caught that, under enough pressure hydrogen is thought to become metallic- as in maaaaaybe the core of Jupiter?

http://www.google.com/search?client=ubu ... c+hydrogen

scantrontb wrote:

Gavote wrote:Diamond...no we're looking at crystalline hydrogen at those pressures!

Actually... due to it's position on the Periodic Table of the Elements, it would be a Metal, not a Crystal...

If we're nitpicking chemistry ... all metals are crystalline! Most are polycrystalline, sure, but some, like Gallium and Bismuth, easily form macroscopic crystals.

(re: metals = crystaline, etc...)
I furgot to mention.

I wonder if Cricket will ever get 'to the Island', (or maybe she's already been and I'm non-recollecting...)