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Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:33 am
by shadowinthelight
Fairportfan wrote:Ummm. They're sisters.
Their snakes are making out.
Is that incest?
I see cuddling, not kissing. So no, the snakes aren't committing incesssssst.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:52 am
by davids4250
Sisters often hug, especially if they have not seen each other for a while. I see the snakes hugging.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:45 am
by Mark N
The pic is wonderful Paul. Just take what ever time you need so you don't overtax yourself.
On a side note, if it is allergies a long form remedy I have found is taking a spoonful or so of locally collected honey a day. It builds up your body's immunities against the pollen. The locally collected part is key since only that will be made from the types of pollen that are giving you the problems.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:59 pm
by Catawampus
Paul Taylor wrote:Sorry folks, still getting over whatever cold, allergy, sickness thing I’ve had for a few weeks now.
Hey, if you're sick, then you're sick. There's not much you can do about that other than wait until you're feeling better. Besides, I'm always happy to see a bit more of Euryale.
Wyvern wrote:This drawing reminded me that I found a picture of
Euryale on Deviantart that might be of interest to the readers. An advantage of using established mythology is that other folks have visited the same source and have their own works.
For a very
different take on Euryale, you can check out Iannis Xenakis' "Evryali". . .though personally I'm not a fan of his particular interpretation. Any work for a solo pianist that literally requires three hands to play is a tad too far off into the avant-garde spectrum, I think.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:35 pm
by Dave
Catawampus wrote:For a very different take on Euryale, you can check out Iannis Xenakis' "Evryali". . .though personally I'm not a fan of his particular interpretation. Any work for a solo pianist that literally requires three hands to play is a tad too far off into the avant-garde spectrum, I think.
Interesting... a composition which, by design, is literally impossible for the Intended performer to play "as written". You
have to simplify or subset it to play it, and there's no one prescribed way.
In a way, what Xenakis has created here feels like the musical equivalent of painting or drawing a moving, living figure. The original is in three dimensions (plus a fourth for time, if moving) and the final image is in two dumensions, so the artist must create a subset image... a projection into 2D space... in order to represent the original at all. Ten artists, painting the same model, may create ten similar and yet distinctly projections based at least in part on where they stand. So it could be with "Evryali".
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:03 pm
by Fairportfan
Dave wrote:Catawampus wrote:For a very different take on Euryale, you can check out Iannis Xenakis' "Evryali". . .though personally I'm not a fan of his particular interpretation. Any work for a solo pianist that literally requires three hands to play is a tad too far off into the avant-garde spectrum, I think.
Interesting... a composition which, by design, is literally impossible for the Intended performer to play "as written". You
have to simplify or subset it to play it, and there's no one prescribed way.
In a way, what Xenakis has created here feels like the musical equivalent of painting or drawing a moving, living figure. The original is in three dimensions (plus a fourth for time, if moving) and the final image is in two dumensions, so the artist must create a subset image... a projection into 2D space... in order to represent the original at all. Ten artists, painting the same model, may create ten similar and yet distinctly projections based at least in part on where they stand. So it could be with "Evryali".
Record one "hand" with a MIDI sequencer...
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:40 pm
by Catawampus
Dave wrote:Interesting... a composition which, by design, is literally impossible for the Intended performer to play "as written". You have to simplify or subset it to play it, and there's no one prescribed way.
In a way, what Xenakis has created here feels like the musical equivalent of painting or drawing a moving, living figure. The original is in three dimensions (plus a fourth for time, if moving) and the final image is in two dumensions, so the artist must create a subset image... a projection into 2D space... in order to represent the original at all. Ten artists, painting the same model, may create ten similar and yet distinctly projections based at least in part on where they stand. So it could be with "Evryali".
I don't know if he did it with this particular piece, but one way in which he'd come up with his music was by mathematically mapping out shapes of images or objects, and then assigning musical notes to the resulting values. It's kind of like a method of encryption I once used. The initial layer of encrypting was done by drawing a landscape sketch or painting. As you'd move across from left to right, you'd measure the distance of certain points above the horizon line, and different distance values represented different letters. So I'd make a nice pretty picture and post it at a certain place for my contact to see it, and then my contact would reply by doing the same. Instead of letters, you could assign musical notes, or colours, or whatever else to "see" objects by a whole different means than usual.
I still think that Xenakis' music is terrible, though. Interesting in concept, bleah in execution. I'm not sure how flattered Euryale would be to have her name attached to it.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:48 am
by Opus the Poet
That sounds like the opening to "Baba O'Reilly" by The Who. It was also a mathematical construct with the pitches, notes, and rests all determined by relationship to a formula created for a personality. Most were not very musical but the one chosen for the person the song was named for came out nice.
Re: Eurayle, Medusa, And Stheno. 2014-04-03
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:13 pm
by Fairportfan
Opus the Poet wrote:That sounds like the opening to "Baba O'Reilly" by The Who. It was also a mathematical construct with the pitches, notes, and rests all determined by relationship to a formula created for a personality. Most were not very musical but the one chosen for the person the song was named for came out nice.
I did not know that.