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After this summer, I can relate to the feeling.NOTDilbert wrote:there's a swimming pool in Jet's head?
I dunno. We know that M is inside the space that Jet's covey resides in, but I don't think that necessarily means that Jet's soul has passed on. The impression I got from when Shelly and Connie were talking about the coven/covey distinction is that 'covey' is the term that gets used to refer to any team of demons assigned to a person, regardless of whether a soul is present or absent. A ship can have rats regardless of whether or not it has a captain, to borrow Tina's favorite metaphor.DilyV wrote:Covey of demons... Called it!!! Here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1189#p23312
Now that we know that Jet is another covey of demons, we need to figure out if Jet is still in there at all or if she'd given up the ship to the rats so to speak. My mind keeps going back to what Tina said about Jet's sister, covered in blood, but not her own blood... I can't shake the feeling that it was Jet's blood... the majority of it anyway... and that Jet either died and the rats took over, or she wanted to die and just gave up control to her demons.
We also need to figure out if she is the 'other' that Phix mentioned that was like Tina.
So, Monica and the Tar are outsiders in this closed system. The tar does seem Nu Gui like, doesn't it? But we know that the Nu.... gui... Wait a minute... hold the phone... A nu gui is formed from the soul of an innocent that is killed under violent circumstances. The nu gui isn't ready to move on... so it manifests as a malevolent entity... it can't be the nu gui we've already seen... that one never made contact with Jet OR Monica... so this has to be something created in that plane crash or picked up along the way somehow... According to Anger and Guidance, the Tar doesn't belong... they don't say how long it's been there or if it came in with Monica. I'm still leaning towards the Tar being all the emotions of greed, lust, want, need... manifesting into a malevolent entity somehow, similar to the nu gui.
"The Tar" may be something Jet has flirted with, but never really wanted to hold on to...Sidhekin wrote:The Tar is not supposed to be "in" there. No demon, apparently.
I'm considering the possibility, as first (I believe) noted by scantrontb, of the Nu-Gui branching out. Occam's Razor doesn't apply well to fiction, though ...
Yeah, I think it's too early to say one way or the other. If she is just a covey of demons, why doesn't she know it like Tina does? OTOH, like Tina's demons, Georgette's demons seem to be pretty nice, unlike Monica's or Jin's demons. As I see it, we don't have her soul handling this situation because the soul doesn't reside in Demon (or Covey, whatever) Space. It's probably blissfully unaware of it all. Further clarification is needed.ActionKermit wrote:I dunno. We know that M is inside the space that Jet's covey resides in, but I don't think that necessarily means that Jet's soul has passed on. The impression I got from when Shelly and Connie were talking about the coven/covey distinction is that 'covey' is the term that gets used to refer to any team of demons assigned to a person, regardless of whether a soul is present or absent. A ship can have rats regardless of whether or not it has a captain, to borrow Tina's favorite metaphor.
Oh, I'm sure she has plenty of emotional scope and range in her communications.txmystic wrote:Anger sounds angry...I suppose she can't sound any other way.
We know that Georgette has a covey of demons. From the discussions in the strip about demons some years ago, I have the impression that this is true of most humans, and perhaps even all humans. They're "locked in" (Tina's term) and don't manifest to their human as individual entities... just as psychological pressures and influences and emotional states (and torments, in extreme cases).DilyV wrote:Covey of demons... Called it!!! Here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1189#p23312
Now that we know that Jet is another covey of demons, we need to figure out if Jet is still in there at all or if she'd given up the ship to the rats so to speak.
Spot on I'd say.Aleister Crow wrote:Demon Realm - Physical dimension where demons come from.
Covey-space - Non-physical mental "space" inside/attached to the mind of the demons' host.
Am I close?
I think I like Anger. She makes me giggle. I'd definitely be interested to see what other demons Jet has tucked away in mer mind. This looks like it could get really interesting. I'm not sure where I stand on some of the theories you all are putting forth right now, but it all seems pretty plausible (for the time being at least 
).Not necessarily. Jet has a covey of demons. It would be fair to say that a lot of humans (if not all of them) have a covey of demons. What else would you call the collection of demons inside Monica? A group that isn't a covey?DilyV wrote:Covey of demons... Called it!!! Here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1189#p23312
Now that we know that Jet is another covey of demons, we need to figure out if Jet is still in there at all or if she'd given up the ship to the rats so to speak. My mind keeps going back to what Tina said about Jet's sister, covered in blood, but not her own blood... I can't shake the feeling that it was Jet's blood... the majority of it anyway... and that Jet either died and the rats took over, or she wanted to die and just gave up control to her demons.
I think "covey" is just the term for a group...like a flock of birds or a herd of cattle...I don't think it means anything more or even is intended to imply status akin to Tina's situation. (And apparently Action Kermit and a few others beat me to this distinction. )Seems right.Aleister Crow wrote:Demon Realm - Physical dimension where demons come from.
Covey-space - Non-physical mental "space" inside/attached to the mind of the demons' host.
Am I close?
Judging from the times we've seen Tsillah in shadow form, like here: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/together/ you may be right.jwhouk wrote:"The Tar" may be something Jet has flirted with, but never really wanted to hold on to...Sidhekin wrote:The Tar is not supposed to be "in" there. No demon, apparently.
I'm considering the possibility, as first (I believe) noted by scantrontb, of the Nu-Gui branching out. Occam's Razor doesn't apply well to fiction, though ...
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Please rewind back to here for a moment - last panel... Tina mentioned briefly "oh, your parents were killed in a plane crash and you got the blood all over you."
Someone else looked awfully murky and inky when THEY burst onto the scene - right after someone else said "Sweetie, you threw yourself in front of a bus."
I bet that, if "Tar" could speak, it would say it was one of Tsillah's evil twins.
Geee. I think I just managed to create a new term for the forum. Covey-Space, (CSpace for short). LOL. First time I've done that.DilyV wrote:Spot on I'd say.Aleister Crow wrote:Demon Realm - Physical dimension where demons come from.
Covey-space - Non-physical mental "space" inside/attached to the mind of the demons' host.
Am I close?
Also, notice how similar the background in Covey-Space looks to Tsillah's shadow clothing that she conjured up for Shelly and Justin.
So, the Tar might be post-traumatic stress disorder?NOTDilbert wrote:Ya know, clotting blood is kinda black and tarry, like you see on plane crash victims....Can a mental image be so strong that it takes on an existence of it's own?
*edit* PS - there's a swimming pool in Jet's head?
I always thought it was the litotes.Dave wrote:../
Reminds me a bit of Dinsdale Piranha... it's the sarcasm, you see.
Close, very close... but no cigar.bmonk wrote:So, the Tar might be post-traumatic stress disorder?