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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:11 pm

DinkyInky wrote:
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DinkyInky wrote:Dare I even ask what this movie is actually called?
"Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets"

Destined to be this decade's "Fifth Element".
Hard Pass then, as I disliked Fifth Element.
The reason i phrased it like that is that "Fifth Element" opened to a fair amount of derision and poor reviews ...

It now shows 72% positive among critics on RottenTomatoes - and 87% positive with viewers.
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by Hansontoons » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Atomic wrote:Just keep in mind it was based on a French graphic novel series. French. Very French. That alone may excuse some of the director's, ah... sins<h<h<h<h approaches to story telling.

Bruce Willis made the 5th element much better, as did the rest of the cast. I'll let you decide if the people in Valarian clicked for you.
Haven't picked up anything in a long time that qualifies as graphic novel.

Did subscribe to Heavy Metal when it first appeared in 1977. Cannot recall how I found out that it was starting up, I think may have been fact Vaughn Bode work was part of content. Certainly opened some eyes on the floor of the college skool dorm I was living in at the time, issues made the rounds. Had the subscription up to late '88, dropped it because lost interest in content. Only still have '86-'88 copies, rest were lost in a flood. Forgot them in back of a closet. So some exposure to French work, if early HM counts in your opinion. I still marvel at the work of Giraud/Moebius. Have idea to cosplay Major Grubert at some point, as retired of course. Could trim 'stache to suit, jodhpurs and pith helmets are available online. Just have to get the right shaped valise to carry.

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:50 pm

Hansontoons wrote:
Atomic wrote:Just keep in mind it was based on a French graphic novel series. French. Very French. That alone may excuse some of the director's, ah... sins<h<h<h<h approaches to story telling.

Bruce Willis made the 5th element much better, as did the rest of the cast. I'll let you decide if the people in Valarian clicked for you.
Haven't picked up anything in a long time that qualifies as graphic novel.

Did subscribe to Heavy Metal when it first appeared in 1977. Cannot recall how I found out that it was starting up, I think may have been fact Vaughn Bode work was part of content.
Did you read the National Lampoon? Same publisher and promoted in house ads...
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by Atomic » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:25 pm

Having read my share of Heavy Metal, the magazine, the movie Heavy Metal was actually pretty good. Some of the ties to blend the various story lines together were a bit forced, and a few cliche scenes/dialog, but it mostly worked.

Highly recommend it for a popcorn evening viewing.
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:48 am

Atomic wrote:Having read my share of Heavy Metal, the magazine, the movie Heavy Metal was actually pretty good. Some of the ties to blend the various story lines together were a bit forced, and a few cliche scenes/dialog, but it mostly worked.

Highly recommend it for a popcorn evening viewing.
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by Hansontoons » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:49 pm

AnotherFairportfan wrote: Did you read the National Lampoon? Same publisher and promoted in house ads...
That was it! Good memory! I think I used to have a good memory, cannot remember...

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by TazManiac » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:30 pm

Geez, it turns out you guys really are my people... (looks askance...) :?

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Post by scantrontb » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:38 am

TazManiac wrote:Geez, it turns out you guys really are my people... (looks askance...) :?

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:32 am

scantrontb wrote:
TazManiac wrote:Geez, it turns out you guys really are my people... (looks askance...) :?
One of us!... ONE of US!!... ONE OF US!!!...
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by Dave » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:41 am

TazManiac wrote:Geez, it turns out you guys really are my people... (looks askance...) :?
A thought that's somewhere on the far side of "deeply disturbing", no? :o

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Post by GlytchMeister » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:55 am

Dave wrote:
TazManiac wrote:Geez, it turns out you guys really are my people... (looks askance...) :?
A thought that's somewhere on the far side of "deeply disturbing", no? :o
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by TazManiac » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:06 pm

DinkyInky wrote:
AnotherFairportfan wrote:
DinkyInky wrote:Dare I even ask what this movie is actually called?
"Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets"

Destined to be this decade's "Fifth Element".
Hard Pass then, as I disliked Fifth Element.

You will Watch 'the Fifth Element'.

You Will LIKE watching 'the Fifth Element'...

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Post by AnotherFairportfan » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:21 pm

That scene left McDowell with scratched corneas.
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by scantrontb » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:04 pm

TazManiac wrote:
You will Watch 'the Fifth Element'.

You Will LIKE watching 'the Fifth Element'...
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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by TazManiac » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:57 am

Aaaaand then

1) there is Marvel Studios' Guardians of the Galaxy franchise. < apropos to this conversation in terms of eyeball filling spectacle.

2) (To which, esp during the initial entry), i griped; "They ain't do'n it right. 'Guardians w/out Adam Warlock ain't right...".

3) Anybody who's seen the end-credits of vol 2 knows to expect a certain Golden hued entity to enter the fray in vol 3...

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Post by Catawampus » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:49 pm

TazManiac wrote:Aaaaand then

1) there is Marvel Studios' Guardians of the Galaxy franchise. < apropos to this conversation in terms of eyeball filling spectacle.

2) (To which, esp during the initial entry), i griped; "They ain't do'n it right. 'Guardians w/out Adam Warlock ain't right...".

3) Anybody who's seen the end-credits of vol 2 knows to expect a certain Golden hued entity to enter the fray in vol 3...
I think that this is one of the cases where not knowing much about the relevant continuity can be a plus. I never got into reading comics, so most of what I know about the Marvel titles is from the movies. So I don't really have any preconceived ideas of what should happen that then let me down, but I can be all surprised by things that the comic nerds know will be happening.

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by Alkarii » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:48 pm

What I find interesting about people complaining about how movies based on comic books don't perfectly follow the comics is that doing so would actually be impossible (if the particular comic has been around long enough), as the stories of the comics keep getting rewritten every so often, for various reasons.

To me, a movie about a comic book character is no different than another retelling of the same story. Also, if you make a movie that is a panel-for-shot adaptation of the comic, you'd wind up with a movie that is much longer than most people will want to sit through, or you have to cut it into parts like they do with the comic books. The problem there is that it won't have the right flow for a movie: One film is just the opening act, where everyone is introduced, and we learn how they interact. Then we have to wait for a year or more to even know part of what the hell is going on, but you'd be lost if you didn't JUST see the first film. Then, if the story isn't wrapped up then, you'd have to watch yet another hour and a half to two hour (or longer) film.

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by GlytchMeister » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:20 am

IF YOU THINK I'M GONNA WATCH A 48-HOUR MOVIE ADAPTATION OF HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS then you're absolutely right, get comfortable, get some food and drinks, and stock up on 5-hour-energy shots and caffeine pills because we're in for the long haul.
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Post by TazManiac » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:09 pm

Yes, but- The source material, that which any given Comic Book that later was turned into a Film Adaptation, has itself a beginning.

A core around which later rewrites and re-imaginings built upon.

My prickly point is that they should favor the basic, original, genesis of a story-line, then if they want to branch out to later versions; well OK then.

(Saving my example of an adaptation of an Ancient Myth, like 'Hercules' for example, in reserve, for now...)

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Re: Captain Queeg commits genocide ...

Post by TazManiac » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:22 pm

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... es-1074689

Oh, btw- seems the film, having done so bad in terms of Box Office results, is the cause for layoffs...

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