Windows 10

AnotherFairportfan · Post by **AnotherFairportfan** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:27 pm

Exited Insider, disabled telemetry.

AnotherFairportfan · Post by **AnotherFairportfan** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:24 pm

Also switched back to a local account.

GlytchMeister · Post by **GlytchMeister** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:44 pm

Update on the regedit fixes for Defender and telemetry:
CCleaner and Glary don't accidentally kill those registry entries. They're conveniently persistent, which is nice.

jwhouk · Post by **jwhouk** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:57 pm

I think I may have found the problem. A WU-issued fix from earlier this year corrupted two files, both with the .json extension. There is a very specific fix that I've found, and (after I save my WinTen install to a USB drive, using Media Creation Tool) I will run it, then do another sfc run to check it.

If it's fixed... I think I'll do another "save" of my system with Macrium, after deleting the old partition, then try the third attempt at installing WinTen - this time from my USB drive.

And THEN... hopefully I will have Windows 10 on this silly machine.

GlytchMeister · Post by **GlytchMeister** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:19 pm

jwhouk wrote:I think I may have found the problem. A WU-issued fix from earlier this year corrupted two files, both with the .json extension. There is a very specific fix that I've found, and (after I save my WinTen install to a USB drive, using Media Creation Tool) I will run it, then do another sfc run to check it.

If it's fixed... I think I'll do another "save" of my system with Macrium, after deleting the old partition, then try the third attempt at installing WinTen - this time from my USB drive.

And THEN... hopefully I will have Windows 10 on this silly machine.

WU?
Not something like WD (May that program also die in a fire forever)?
...
WD was some program associated with my mom's backup external hard drive, and it is really freaking crappy. And it's sticky, like macaffee.
I... hate... programs that don't uninstall easily.

jwhouk · Post by **jwhouk** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:24 pm

Windows Update. Yes, a program that MICROSOFT put out to "fix" Windows, specifically the "Windows Unified Telemetry Client".

KB3068708 appears to be the culprit.

jwhouk · Post by **jwhouk** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:50 pm

It turns out, the REAL culprit was an earlier update, KB3022345, that was causing the issues with System File Checker and the two JSON files. I uninstalled the update, backed up my Win7 environment using Macrium, then initiated the Windows Ten Upgrade.

And, well... I'm posting, aren't I?

(happy dance, happy dance, happy dance!)

GlytchMeister · Post by **GlytchMeister** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:11 pm

Blimey.
I wouldn't know how to diagnose something like that. Glad you got it figured out.

In other news:
I find myself using my laptop more and more often than I was originally, just for whatever. During windows 8, there were several periods where it sat unused in my backpack for weeks.
I have a sneaking suspicion that is no longer going to be the case.

jwhouk · Post by **jwhouk** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:00 pm

I had to stop and thing how long it's been since I've had to do something like this... I think it was when I purchased this machine back in 2011, because it had Win 7 on it. The transition from XP to Win7 wasn't that much, though, because I got to skip 2K and Vista (shudder).

Grantwhy · Post by **Grantwhy** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:29 am

GlytchMeister wrote: Revo Uninstaller: if you want to kill a stubborn program like Macafee, use this. It hunts down any remnants of programs left behind by their native uninstallers (use as needed)

I like Revo Uninstaller (Free) and used it a lot, until I upgraded from XP to W7 64 bit and found the free version of Revo Uninstaller doesn't 'see' 64 bit programs and can't uninstall them

In my case, the PortableAppsrelease of IObit Uninstaller (Free) (HERE) seems to be an acceptable alternative

And "is packaged for portable use with permission from IObit"

The regular version IObit Uninstaller (Free) is probably fine, but I'm a bit OCD about using portable versions of programs if I can, and I've not got any popup/offer for any other IObit programs while using the PortableApps release

AnotherFairportfan · Post by **AnotherFairportfan** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:39 pm

Huh? I've been running 64 bit W7 since it came out, and using Revo Free, and i've never hit anything it can't handle.

Grantwhy · Post by **Grantwhy** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:54 am

I'm guessing you don't install any 64 bit versions of programs? To be honest, I don't have too many myself.

from the comparison table at http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uni ... nload.html

only the Professional version of Revo Uninstaller has "Full 64-bit compatibility - Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 "

I do have the 64 bit version of Sandboxie (free) installed. Revo Uninstaller doesn't see it and would be unable to install it.

AnotherFairportfan · Post by **AnotherFairportfan** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:00 am

Grantwhy wrote:I'm guessing you don't install any 64 bit versions of programs? To be honest, I don't have too many myself.

from the comparison table at http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uni ... nload.html

only the Professional version of Revo Uninstaller has "Full 64-bit compatibility - Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 "

I do have the 64 bit version of Sandboxie (free) installed. Revo Uninstaller doesn't see it and would be unable to install it.

I install whatever is available - 32 or 64 bit.

I must have just not noticed and never tried to use it on anything that was 64.

GlytchMeister · Post by **GlytchMeister** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:55 pm

Ok, I have a new question for everyone:

My computer won't stay hibernating. It turns itself back on.

This is rather inconvenient, especially since I use hibernate to save the battery while I'm traveling.

What is doing this and how do I kill it?

Post by **Dave** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:18 pm

GlytchMeister wrote:Ok, I have a new question for everyone:

My computer won't stay hibernating. It turns itself back on.

This is rather inconvenient, especially since I use hibernate to save the battery while I'm traveling.

What is doing this and how do I kill it?

There are a bunch of things which can bring a PC out of hibernation... pushing various buttons (including keyboard keys), activity on USB, activity on the network, etc. Some of these are prone to false operation... keyboard presses, or a momentary partial opening of the lid (as seen by the lid sensor) can easily occur if a laptop is being carried around, jostled, etc.

First thing I'd suggest doing is checking the BIOS settings, and also the Windows power-management settings. In both cases you'll probably a bunch of controls over the suspend-and-resume behavior.

I'd suggest turning off the "wake on mouse" and "wake on keyboard keypress" options, network-activity wakeup, wakeup-on-lid-opening, and so forth. If you can get it configured to the point where only a press on the power button triggers the wakeup, then you'll have eliminated most of the possible causes of an unwanted awakening.

shadowinthelight · Post by **shadowinthelight** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:27 pm

This blog has some tips.

GlytchMeister · Post by **GlytchMeister** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:38 am

I'm pretty sure you already know, but I just wanna clarify: as I understand it, opening the lid, moving the mouse, or pressing anything other than the power button itself shouldn't bring my laptop out if hibernation. That happens when it's "sleeping."
Sleeping is just a low-power state.
Hibernation is saving the session to the hard drive and turning the computer completely off.

Before the upgrade, I had to press the power button itself to end hibernation, whereas a stiff breeze could wake the laptop up from sleeping.

It's super late and I gotta get up early to figure out what's up with the FrankenStratus, so I'll look at the links later. Thanks.

jwhouk · Post by **jwhouk** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:27 am

From what I understand, WinTen does a lot of resetting defaults from previous operating systems. If you have to, search for power settings in the "Settings" app (fka Control Panel).

shadowinthelight · Post by **shadowinthelight** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:45 am

One setting you should take care of ASAP is disabling fast booting or else you could end up completely screwed if Windows won't boot and you have to boot into safe mode. But even if you do so you may still be screwed.

"Windows 8 has a problem – it really can boot up too quickly. So quickly, in fact, that there is no longer time for anything to interrupt boot. When you turn on a Windows 8 PC, there's no longer long enough to detect keystrokes like F2 or F8, much less time to read a message such as "Press F2 for Setup." For the first time in decades, you will no longer be able to interrupt boot and tell your PC to do anything different than what it was already expecting to do."

If you have modern PC with a UEFI BIOS and a fast SSD drive, there's no way you can interrupt the boot procedure with your keypresses. On older PCs, with a classic BIOS and no SSD drive, pressing these keys might still work though.

I swear if I win the lottery ReactOS will be getting a big donation from me.

AnotherFairportfan · Post by **AnotherFairportfan** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:24 am

I don't know what to do on W8, but on W10, it's not that it's too fast - the advanced boot menu is disabled by default. (Apparently this was the W8 situation, i see after googling.)

Easy enough to fix:

Enable the Windows Boot Manager screen by entering the following commands into an elevated CMD prompt:
Code: Select all
BCDEDIT  /set  {bootmgr}  displaybootmenu  yes
BCDEDIT  /timeout  5

For an elevated prompt (in W10, anyway) press WIN-X

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