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The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:56 am
by DilyV
And Suzie is toting them around in her bra....

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:00 am
by shadowinthelight
So the baby doll is the child of the six adult dolls combined?

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:04 am
by Fairportfan
Hmmm.

Okay, so where did Lily and the other five girls come from?

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:06 am
by DilyV
shadowinthelight wrote:So the baby doll is the child of the six adult dolls combined?
I don't think so... unless the six larger dolls are the mothers (in their crystals) and the baby is representative of the six lost babies (in one crystal) The Kachinas are representative of something, but I don't think that's been revealed just yet... has it?

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:07 am
by Boxilar
Well, crap. Kath may be a composite of fsix individual people/babies dumped into the same crystal.

Also, interesting side note, Bud and Brandi don't remember their origins here. They know they're golems, but don't know they were once human.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:09 am
by Opus the Poet
OK the room Kat and Astali stargated into had "hundreds of thousands" of crystals, and every person got their own crystal, making the odds against multiple quadruplets only slightly lower than that guy winning the Powerball in FL having the only ticket. Still having 6 babies in the same crystal would be slightly less bad (not better, just less bad) than shunting 6 adults into the same crystal, of only because there would be no accumulated memories to sort through.

Still monumentally bad, though. As in create a monument near Mesa Verde with the stargate inside it...

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:15 am
by Mark N
So we are facing a high probability that Kath is a mix of six different children. The real question left is when the crystals are reactivated, will the children be separated and will she still exist?

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:34 am
by MerchManDan
Well, hang on. Six unborn babies get crammed into one crystal. Lily is one of six girls who woke up in a desert without any memories. She thinks she's the only one who survived...but maybe Kath is one of those six as well. Maybe Kath was somehow protected from dying and/or rising as a vampire by the Spider Woman. Probably just bad luck that Lily wasn't found & protected as well.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:43 am
by Dave
Boxilar wrote:Well, crap. Kath may be a composite of fsix individual people/babies dumped into the same crystal.
Not dissimilar in some ways to a known human biological phenomenon, when two fraternal twins merge in the womb (very soon after fertilization). You get a baby (and eventually an adult) whose body consists of a mixture of cells from two genetically distinct individuals... but only one body and personality. In theory this could happen with three or more fertilized ova but the odds are so astronomically against it I can't recall hearing of any known cases..

The medical term for such a genetically-split human? "Chimera". If you're right, Boxilar, then Katherine would be a chimera of a unique sort... and Paul could really be funning with us!
Also, interesting side note, Bud and Brandi don't remember their origins here. They know they're golems, but don't know they were once human.
Noted! And, I don't think we've seen the term "Etheitians" before? I do recall that the term "Anasazi" is not what that people called themselves (it means "ancient enemies" in another Native American language, if I remember correctly).

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:44 am
by NOTDilbert
"Etheitians"?

I think Paul must have made that one up - or it avoided being wiki-ized some way.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:49 am
by MerchManDan
Indeed. I just Googled "etheitians" and got this:
Did you mean:

estheticians etherians ethicians ephesians


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Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:43 am
by Wyvern
Boxilar wrote:Also, interesting side note, Bud and Brandi don't remember their origins here. They know they're golems, but don't know they were once human.

Their memories seem to have been locked away more than once - and considering how the Chimera was made, that may be a mercy.

I'm curious to read more about the "Etheitians" though.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:55 am
by Fairportfan
Brandi's cutie mark is gone again...

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:49 am
by shadowinthelight
Dave wrote:The medical term for such a genetically-split human? "Chimera". If you're right, Boxilar, then Katherine would be a chimera of a unique sort... and Paul could really be funning with us!
One word: Tuvix.
Fairportfan wrote:Brandi's cutie mark is gone again...
She hasn't discovered her passion in life yet.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:07 am
by Timotheus
It could be a variation on Ethician.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:09 am
by Wildcat
This is the sort of thing that gets hashed out in beta-testing... o.o;

Wildcat

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:10 am
by as363
And the cat in the tree smiles - and slowly fades away.....

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:15 am
by Aleister Crow
if Lily was one of those babies, it may explain the time difference between the disaster (~6300 years ago) and her death (~5000 years ago). It took 1300 years for someone to figure out how to separate them.
NOTDilbert wrote:"Etheitians"?

I think Paul must have made that one up - or it avoided being wiki-ized some way.
A civilization so completely lost that no one remembered to put it on the internet?

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:20 am
by KnightDelight
NOTDilbert wrote:"Etheitians"?

I think Paul must have made that one up - or it avoided being wiki-ized some way.
Well, once the Google bots come by this forum, there will be a search reference to the word and it'll be us. That should happen any time now.

Re: The Same Crystal 2013-05-22

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:49 am
by Sideromelane
In animals Chimeraism causes stuff like

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while in humans, you can get some really weird examples along these lines:

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which, might look kinda neat, but iirc causes weird complications in some cases. It's also not THAT uncommon, although most people who have it might never realize, unless they get specific genetic tests done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_%28genetics%29 for more info I guess.

Now while I'm no expert, and while the pigmentation weirdness is not meant to be particularly noticible in most cases, we've seen, um, a LOT of Katherine's skin in the comic. I'm sure some hints may have shown up before now if she WAS some sort of chimera?