Together 2012-12-07
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:31 am
Nap time!
All tuckered out after a long day of soul-crushing catharsis.
All tuckered out after a long day of soul-crushing catharsis.
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I've been trying to get my hands on a projector to sharpie something on the inside of my hooch. This would be a great one...shadowinthelight wrote:A regular print just wont do. This needs to be a big wall sized poster.
I felt the exact same thing... so after you have been manipulated, modified and basically maneuvered into having some near mental breakdown let one of the primary players hug you and then it is nap-nap time? This just does not make sense to me at all.Atomic wrote:Nap time!
All tuckered out after a long day of soul-crushing catharsis.
Actually, I didn't find this section to show any friends being subversive at all. Maybe it's because I read a lot of it at once after being MIA for several days, but Nudge wasn't doing anything she isn't already known for doing. Yes, we can guess that she wanted to provoke M to lash out at her, but in my book she still gets a gold star for standing in that particular line of fire when she knew that it was potentially life-threatening to her now. Then Euryale and Tsillah...their reactions actually make sense when read consecutively. Anger at Monica losing control of her powers and taking it out on Nudge, then more light-hearted after M told them what she actually did (because they knew that Nudge wasn't dead at that point). *shrugs* Not really that subversive either. Could they have clarified to M sooner that Nudge wasn't dead? Yes. However, would an earlier explanation have helped her realize the full extent of how dangerous she is? Possibly not. Also, would she have listened since she was already trying to process what had just happened? Knowing Monica, not until after she'd had that break-down and someone shook her to get her attention.Nimrod wrote:I felt the exact same thing... so after you have been manipulated, modified and basically maneuvered into having some near mental breakdown let one of the primary players hug you and then it is nap-nap time? This just does not make sense to me at all.Atomic wrote:Nap time!
All tuckered out after a long day of soul-crushing catharsis.
If I had even one supposed "friend" do anything this subversive, let alone the half-dozen of so characters involved in the most recent Monica enlightenment plot I would seriously reconsider our relationship. I find this exceeding devious if not verging on cold callousness. They are all extremely lucky that Monica did not suffer serious psychological trauma - something I doubt her "Feedback Phoenix" power could repair.
Which, IMO, is why her friends (and I do think they care about her as a person, not just as a power) had to push her to this realization of her dangerous potential. She can't learn to be in control of herself until she knows what she's capable of doing in the first place.Nimrod wrote:I think the reason this plot line gets under my skin so much is that it leaves Monica with no control of herself. The people around her are what make her into what she is now so she really is not a fleshed out person but rather a plot point created by the whims of others. She is not strong, powerful, special or significant to anyone as they really do not care about who she could be naturally but really what they can poke and prod her into becoming.
OK, then, let's turn this around.Nimrod wrote:This just does not make sense to me at all.
I believe that Paul said, here in the forum, that the "key blade" with which Shelly brainspiked Monica was the source or carrier of the Phoenix blood.Bathorys Daughter wrote:Concerning the morality of what is being done to Monica; I believe there are one or two major stages to this drama. The first is her innate ability to communicate with May while she was in the demon realm. Here is where she was initially used and abused and the start of all her problems. Did May know how much her influence would affect her? Probably, but she was, with Jin, trying to stop the endless repetition of the CM. That was more important than one person's life. Monica just happened to be the one. Problem is, that was not the end of it all. One thing we don't know is when she received the phoenix blood. Was it inherited? If so, she was doomed from the start and May could use her because she had the blood. I don't know.
Or, Nudge elected herself. We don't know for certain how much Euryale, Phix, and Tsillah knew in advance, or whether there were others involved in planning what went down (Brandi, for example?).Monica had to KNOW what she could do when her Phoenix blood boiled, what she could become, not just be told. To do that she had to kill someone or fully believe she did. Nudge was elected.
I'd also go for a 1920 x 1200 donation desktop version...shadowinthelight wrote:A regular print just wont do. This needs to be a big wall sized poster.