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Though M and Jin are discussing the secret plans surrounding the Calendar Machine, not the entire Wapsiverse. There were Lanthian priests, and Hitler, after all.
Though suggesting that M is a bad guy is very relevant considering...
jwhouk wrote:As we've seen that Pablo likes to play around with mythology, I suspect there might be another reason why M's demons want to keep these two at arm's length.
They get one sip of that Phoenix blood, and...
And that vamp goes up like a roman candle...
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My2Cents wrote: How else can you explain a hairless, clawless, fangless, biped becoming the apex predator on the planet.
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jwhouk wrote:As we've seen that Pablo likes to play around with mythology, I suspect there might be another reason why M's demons want to keep these two at arm's length.
They get one sip of that Phoenix blood, and...
And that vamp goes up like a roman candle...
Would Mon's guard-demons care about that? Not necessarily; in fact, they'd probably enjoy watching something like that happen.
No, if they're going to keep vampires from drinking Mon's blood, it's because they don't want the leeches to benefit from it - perhaps the same way Mon benefits from it. We don't know how vampires are killed in this universe yet; sunlight obviously doesn't do it, but perhaps something more drastic would (the classic beheading, silver exposure, or stake-through-the-heart). If a vampire drank Phoenix blood, it might - MIGHT, because this is an extreme reach - it might become "immortal" in the same sense Monica is. And if they're as undesirable as we've been led to believe, then no demon would ever let that happen.
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jwhouk wrote:As we've seen that Pablo likes to play around with mythology, I suspect there might be another reason why M's demons want to keep these two at arm's length.
They get one sip of that Phoenix blood, and...
And that vamp goes up like a roman candle...
Would Mon's guard-demons care about that? Not necessarily; in fact, they'd probably enjoy watching something like that happen.
No, if they're going to keep vampires from drinking Mon's blood, it's because they don't want the leeches to benefit from it - perhaps the same way Mon benefits from it. We don't know how vampires are killed in this universe yet; sunlight obviously doesn't do it, but perhaps something more drastic would (the classic beheading, silver exposure, or stake-through-the-heart). If a vampire drank Phoenix blood, it might - MIGHT, because this is an extreme reach - it might become "immortal" in the same sense Monica is. And if they're as undesirable as we've been led to believe, then no demon would ever let that happen.
There's also the unfortunate side-effect of M being vampyrized. There's a skill set we don't need to add to that particular mix...
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chibichibi01 wrote:Plasma has the same... salinity as 0.9% Saline solution. That's why when you give fluids that's the most common (because regular sterile water burns like hell) The simple saline is isotonic with our bodies. Seawater and Plasma are... very different. Seawater is almost 4.5 times as salty as your plasma. Plus, plasma has necessary sugars and proteins in it (like the clotting cascade) that seawater just doesn't have. I know it's a google answers link but: http://answers.google.com/answers/threa ... 61036.html has some really good information. EDIT: Reading further, they are similar but i wouldn't want to be given seawater if i needed a plasma transfusion
Yes, I should have qualified the seawater comments with "first you remove all the organic stuff from the plasma", then make your seawater comparisons. Also, though seawater is very salty now, there is thought that it was not nearly as salty, in some places in the seas, back when life was taking hold. Thus, the blueprint we have for making of it for our blood probably evolved during a time of much less salinity and mineral content in certain, critical (to the formation of life) ocean areas. One such discussion is found here.
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Bathorys Daughter wrote:So, we either come to some sort of agreement with the vampires, or we eliminate the threat. I would think that agreement would center around not killing any of us and we not killing any of them. Since the vampires are not just wild animals, we can come to an agreement, just as has been done with the demons. At least I'm hoping Paul takes the story that way. All the other killers of humans we have seen have gained a conscience and no longer kill just because they can. Not too sure about Bia yet, however.
Got a reference to humans coming to an agreement with the demons? It sounds more like someone (i.e. God) set the rules and gave the Sphinxes the job of enforcing it, no negotiations involved at all ...
Well, yes ... by agreement I meant the one enforced by the sphinxes. Not one humans made with the demons. But it is an agreement. The sphinxes didn't just come in and kill all the demons, ending the problem once and for all. In our particular case, the demons could have simply left the earth alone and moved on to new hunting grounds, but they chose to stay. There must be some benefit to them to do so. The sphinxes (or whoever commands them) saw the demons could serve a useful purpose for us IF they followed certain rules of conduct. While it was a rather one sided negotiation it was still an agreement. The demons could stay if they agreed to stop shredding souls for their amusement. They did, agreeing to the sphinx's terms ... for the most part. As we've seen, exceptions are swiftly dealt with. A quick trial and quick punishment.
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Jabberwonky wrote:If one of the 'shitty mosquitos' did bite M and light up, would she be a Vam-pyre?
(drops illeagle Mexican fireworks into the pun jar)
I think you owe a payment for your sick bird, too.
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Jabberwonky wrote:There's also the unfortunate side-effect of M being vampyrized. There's a skill set we don't need to add to that particular mix...
Ah, true; another thing against which they have to protect Mon. Assuming she'd be vulnerable to it, anyway.
Nah - rip her heart out again and she turns back into Just Phoenix Monica, with no Extra Added Hemovore.
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Over on the "Misfile" board, i just stacked five, and i think someone did nine, just to see if they could.
The mod discourages such things because at least once, i understand, someone embedded too many videos in one post and broke the board. (There is now a hard limit of two embedded videos per post, counting ones in posts you're quoting.)
Not even duct tape can fix stupid. But it can muffle the noise.
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Peace through superior firepower - ain't nothin' more peaceful than a dead troublemaker.
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Fairportfan wrote:Over on the "Misfile" board, i just stacked five, and i think someone did nine, just to see if they could.
The mod discourages such things because at least once, i understand, someone embedded too many videos in one post and broke the board. (There is now a hard limit of two embedded videos per post, counting ones in posts you're quoting.)
That may be so on other forums, but this one happens to be set up so that if you try, you'll get the following message when trying to preview or post:
Fairportfan wrote:Over on the "Misfile" board, i just stacked five, and i think someone did nine, just to see if they could.
The mod discourages such things because at least once, i understand, someone embedded too many videos in one post and broke the board. (There is now a hard limit of two embedded videos per post, counting ones in posts you're quoting.)
That may be so on other forums, but this one happens to be set up so that if you try, you'll get the following message when trying to preview or post:
"You may embed only 3 quotes within each other."
I know. I have.
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lake_wrangler wrote:
*Drops some heather into the pun jar*
If she can fit, I guess she won't mind.
It's the extra arms that'll make it difficult.
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Not even duct tape can fix stupid. But it can muffle the noise.
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Peace through superior firepower - ain't nothin' more peaceful than a dead troublemaker.
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mike weber