Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

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Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Atomic » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:26 am

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I'm starting to like this turn of events. It's time we caught up on Jaqui and Luci.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby AnotherFairportfan » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:40 am

"Angry girl with a knife"?

Wow. Shelly might have been up against something scary if Luci had relapsed...
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby TazManiac » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:19 am

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Luci is an interesting gal, (her and Becky...)
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Dave » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:05 am

I must admit, I'd like to study the wording of that NDA.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby oldmanmickey » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:02 am

Yea the government is not know for clear and concise wording. More just try to cover anything.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Catawampus » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:55 am

Dave wrote:I must admit, I'd like to study the wording of that NDA.


"Wait. . .what's this bit here about 'blast radius' in the third paragraph?"
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Dave » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:33 pm

Catawampus wrote:
Dave wrote:I must admit, I'd like to study the wording of that NDA.

"Wait. . .what's this bit here about 'blast radius' in the third paragraph?"

Yeah, that's basically the sort of thing I was wondering about. How do you write an NDA that will cover the sort of situations that could arise in this case, without using language that gives away the situation to anyone who reads the NDA itself (even if they haven't signed it and aren't bound by it), and without the restrictions being so vague and fuzzy and broad that Jacquie's lawyer wouldn't say "You would be an idiot to sign this." It might be possible but it would be very tricky.

I suppose that's why Monica didn't insist on Amanda signing an NDA before being dunked into Lake Calhoun, right in the middle of the proliferating milfoil. That particular NDA would have had to include a manatee clause, and we all know there is no manatee clause.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby eee » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:35 pm

Dave wrote:I must admit, I'd like to study the wording of that NDA.

It's got to be interesting. How do you say "You will disclose nothing about the fact that there are non-human, super-powered beings from myth and magic all around, and a top secret para-governmental agency running herd on things to boot" without saying that?
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby jwhouk » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:42 pm

SECTION B - NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.
1. Anything that is told to you by the agents (defined in section A) will not be disseminated, disclosed, or otherwise shared with anyone except the agents and those approved by the agents.

2. Failure to follow this agreement will result in very bad things(TM) happening.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Dave » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:20 pm

jwhouk wrote:SECTION B - NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.
1. Anything that is told to you by the agents (defined in section A) will not be disseminated, disclosed, or otherwise shared with anyone except the agents and those approved by the agents.

2. Failure to follow this agreement will result in very bad things(TM) happening.

That means that the agents can bind you to silence about any subject whatsoever, for the rest of your life, just by telling it to you. It's an unlimited blank-check gag order, written on pigskin (of the "pig-in-a-poke" variety). Lawyer says "Jacquie, you would be insane to sign this. You don't know what you're agreeing to."

(It also places no limits on what you could disclose if you learn of it directly (e.g. by observing Castela in person), if it's something that wasn't specifically told to you by one of the agents. So, although it's draconian, it's also inadequate.)

This is the sort of situation that a government can get away with, via an oath of secrecy or a military secrecy order.

Coming up with a workable equivalent in civil law, that would make sense for Jacquie to sign... not so easy.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby FreeFlier » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:20 pm

Having to sign an NDA about the contents of the main NDA?

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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby eee » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Oh yes, I forgot Luci thinks she has fat ankles, too.

http://wapsisquare.com/comic/justposes/

She and Castela should be able to bond pretty quickly if they start comparing their bodily defects.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby AnotherFairportfan » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:53 pm

Dave wrote:
Catawampus wrote:How do you write an NDA that will cover the sort of situations that could arise in this case, without using language that gives away the situation to anyone who reads the NDA itself (even if they haven't signed it and aren't bound by it), and without the restrictions being so vague and fuzzy and broad that Jacquie's lawyer wouldn't say "You would be an idiot to sign this." It might be possible but it would be very tricky.

You do what my former-mole-inside-Microsoft told me that they did about Windows 10 {i think it was}; They made you sign an NDA to get to see the NDA for working on it.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby AnotherFairportfan » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:55 pm

FreeFlier wrote:Having to sign an NDA about the contents of the main NDA?

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Yep. See my previous comment.
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby AnotherFairportfan » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:07 pm

eee wrote:Oh yes, I forgot Luci thinks she has fat ankles, too.

http://wapsisquare.com/comic/justposes/

She and Castela should be able to bond pretty quickly if they start comparing their bodily defects.

Reminds me of Ash in Misfile - trying on sexy lingerie with her girlfriend in mind {stressful in the situation, at best} in a fitting room with a poster featuring a shot of her mother modeling one of her signature line sexy bras...

{This is in a fanfic, but it's very much in character.]

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* In case you don't know, Ash is a teenage boy transformed into a girl and the whole world except her, another girl who has to do two years of her high school over and the angel who screwed up in the Celestial Filing Depot remembers that it was always that way...
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Warrl » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 pm

You know, folks, there are sample NDAs readily available for examination
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Hansontoons » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:18 pm

Dave wrote:I suppose that's why Monica didn't insist on Amanda signing an NDA before being dunked into Lake Calhoun, right in the middle of the proliferating milfoil. That particular NDA would have had to include a manatee clause, and we all know there is no manatee clause.


Someone's getting a lump of coal in their stocking for that one...
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Atomic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:49 am

Manatee clause? Ha! What about a Sanity Clause?
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Re: Pay It Forward 2017-12-15

Postby Dave » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:01 am

Atomic wrote:Manatee clause? Ha! What about a Sanity Clause?

We could only dream of having one of those.

(Yes, that particular Marx Brothers bit was what I was referencing)
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