Antifreeze 2012-09-21

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by davids4250 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:29 am

Monica has been Gorgonized three times now. You've gotta wonder how many people have survived being zapped three times, and what the cumulative effect might be.
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Lupine » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:30 am

I know it's a long shot, Pablo probably didn't show the kiss because we've seen it before. However, has anyone considered the possibility that Euryale hasn't given her the kiss yet? If that's the (unlikely) case, we might be seeing another evolution of Monica's powers, maybe an immunity to or an ability to undo the 'magical' effects of some beings.
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by sonicthunder » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:29 pm

Bit confused on this page. Is Bud running up and witnessing the 'antifreeze', or did Bud actually help as Euryale requested? Bud and Euryale's expressions make it a little difficult to decipher (not that it really matters).

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by nerf-dweller » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Well considering Bud can breath plasma, I'll bet she had a hand in defrosting the water around Monica and Eurayle. It looks like the aftermath of Bud bending over to free them from the water, and Bud going into her patented WTH expression.

And anyone else getting the feeling Monica hasn't learned the lesson of not shocking the Gorgon? I mean she's bound to get it after 3 or 4 (more) times.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Bathorys Daughter » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:16 pm

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Heh, I want to pencil in a tiny voice bubble from the snake, saying: "...wasn't me!" :))
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Dave » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:41 pm

nerf-dweller wrote:Well considering Bud can breath plasma, I'll bet she had a hand in defrosting the water around Monica and Eurayle. It looks like the aftermath of Bud bending over to free them from the water, and Bud going into her patented WTH expression.
And that brings up a point I've only just considered.

At the rate they've been going lately, Monica and Shelly and Bud and the rest of the crew seem likely to use up the entire available world supply of WhatTheHell within the next few months. They're burning through Boggle at an astonishing rate, and (in attempting to correct for this) using up most of the free-market stocks of Sanguine as well.

I'm not sure where this is going to leave the rest of us... scraping stale bits of Meh and OhWell out of the bottom of cardboard containers in the back of the freezer, I suppose.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by bmonk » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:24 pm

nerf-dweller wrote:Well considering Bud can breath plasma, I'll bet she had a hand in defrosting the water around Monica and Eurayle. It looks like the aftermath of Bud bending over to free them from the water, and Bud going into her patented WTH expression.

And anyone else getting the feeling Monica hasn't learned the lesson of not shocking the Gorgon? I mean she's bound to get it after 3 or 4 (more) times.
Some people take longer than others to learn things, I guess.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by bmonk » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:27 pm

NOTDilbert wrote:Well, close - my mom taught English Literature in High School. So not only was I exposed to The Bard the year I actually took Lit, but also every semester during Lesson Planning......
One of my faves - which some poor souls just slogged through as a required chore.

Also: to simulated the sounds of mixed conversations, pair off the extras, and have one softly say "Natter, natter, natter" and the other "grommish, grommish, grommish." Or not softly. It works as long as everyone keeps the same volume....

Is that where Tricky Dick cribbed the "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"?

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Mark N » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:53 pm

Dave wrote: And that brings up a point I've only just considered.

At the rate they've been going lately, Monica and Shelly and Bud and the rest of the crew seem likely to use up the entire available world supply of WhatTheHell within the next few months. They're burning through Boggle at an astonishing rate, and (in attempting to correct for this) using up most of the free-market stocks of Sanguine as well.

I'm not sure where this is going to leave the rest of us... scraping stale bits of Meh and OhWell out of the bottom of cardboard containers in the back of the freezer, I suppose.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by bmonk » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:58 pm

Mark N wrote:That's it Dave, you are cut off from using the thesaurus table.

I've often wondered: Is there another word for "Thesaurus"?

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Opus the Poet » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:07 pm

bmonk wrote:
NOTDilbert wrote:Well, close - my mom taught English Literature in High School. So not only was I exposed to The Bard the year I actually took Lit, but also every semester during Lesson Planning......
One of my faves - which some poor souls just slogged through as a required chore.

Also: to simulated the sounds of mixed conversations, pair off the extras, and have one softly say "Natter, natter, natter" and the other "grommish, grommish, grommish." Or not softly. It works as long as everyone keeps the same volume....

Is that where Tricky Dick cribbed the "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"?
Actually Agnew was the one that used that term.
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by jwhouk » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:53 pm

bmonk wrote:
Mark N wrote:That's it Dave, you are cut off from using the thesaurus table.
I've often wondered: Is there another word for "Thesaurus"?
Steven Wright would like a word with you... (Which one, he's not sure...)
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by stjen » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:09 pm

davids4250 wrote:Monica has been Gorgonized three times now. You've gotta wonder how many people have survived being zapped three times, and what the cumulative effect might be.
Ah, thank you -- I was wondering if anyone was keeping track of how frequently M gets frozen by Euryale. Now -- is it true that every time M and E get together, M usually gets frozen at least once?

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Dave » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:34 pm

stjen wrote:
davids4250 wrote:Monica has been Gorgonized three times now. You've gotta wonder how many people have survived being zapped three times, and what the cumulative effect might be.
Ah, thank you -- I was wondering if anyone was keeping track of how frequently M gets frozen by Euryale. Now -- is it true that every time M and E get together, M usually gets frozen at least once?
It's somewhere around 60% probable at this point, I think. There were at least two Monica/Euryale meet-ups (both starting at Mucho Mocha) during which Monica didn't get frozen. On one occasion she was already badly banged up (volcano and mine explosions) and on the other occasion she left grumpy and irritated (no answer to the vimana cell puzzle).

Come to think of it, both times she was not frozen, were when she met Euryale in the immediate presence of other people. It's when there's nobody else right nearby that the tense/angry/startled moments occur, and Euryale accidentally iceflashes her.

So, at this point, it seems that when Monica meets Euryale, it's almost certainly at a traumatic node in her life's path. Then again, that's true for most people Monica meets :? as she does not live a particularly peaceful life.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Boxilar » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:40 pm

I like today's art. Up till now, Eyrale has been letting her hair down (in a herpatological sense) and now that she's got a world crushing golem upset with her in a state of near panic, she's back in buttoned down mode. And I think that blush is warranted. She's not just embarrassed, she's mortified. She's well aware that she cut this one way to close and nearly killed her hero. At the moment she's lucky that Bud is too scared to get angry.

And I think this whole chain of events illustrates the difference in the way Bud and Eyrale see Monica.

To Eyrale, Monica is a Hero to be put on a pedastal. The Gorgon Knows the great deeds M has been part of and has trouble seeing her as the flawed human being she is. It explains her outbursts when Monica dosen't live up to her expectations.

Monica has been through a lot since becoming the GGGs caretaker. She's been under a lot of stress. As combat veterans can tell you, everyone has their breaking point, and that point varies with the individual.

Monica said she's been "pulling the tail of lions who tollerate her' but I think treating Phix, a close friend, as a big fuzzy human was one of M's coping mechanisims. Seeing Phix in full feral mode shattered the illusion and brought the reality of what she's been involved in crashing down on her head.

Eyrale is sweet and means well, but can't really see the world from Monica's perspective.

Bud can. She's been human. She knows how flawed humans can be, and how good they can be, too. Monica is that to her. Monica has complete control over the GGGs and has only ever exercised it twice. Once was to order Bud to tell her what happened with the Lathian priests, the second was to grant the girls free will so they could live human lives. Monica has never treated Bud, Brandi or even Jin as anything other than human. She's aurgued with them, fought with them and comforted them, but she's never used her power over them, even when Jin probably deserved a little humbling, at least from Monica's perspective.

Bud, despite her incredible power, can empathize with Monica in a way that Eyrale can't. I think Bud and Shelly (another human turned awesomely powerful immortal) are going to be the key to easing Monica back into the supernatural, if she can be eased back at all.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by NOTDilbert » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:33 am

Opus the Poet wrote:
bmonk wrote:
NOTDilbert wrote:Well, close - my mom taught English Literature in High School. So not only was I exposed to The Bard the year I actually took Lit, but also every semester during Lesson Planning......
One of my faves - which some poor souls just slogged through as a required chore.

Also: to simulated the sounds of mixed conversations, pair off the extras, and have one softly say "Natter, natter, natter" and the other "grommish, grommish, grommish." Or not softly. It works as long as everyone keeps the same volume....

Is that where Tricky Dick cribbed the "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"?
Actually Agnew was the one that used that term.
"To natter" generally means to blather on and on, and the term already existed befor David Gerrold's book on ST:TOS came out in the early 70's (?), where I believe he coined the term "nattering and grommishing" - or at least got it widely printed first.
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Fairportfan » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:31 am

NOTDilbert wrote:"To natter" generally means to blather on and on, and the term already existed befor David Gerrold's book on ST:TOS came out in the early 70's (?), where I believe he coined the term "nattering and grommishing" - or at least got it widely printed first.
"Natter" has been a common term in SF fandom about as long as there's been SF fandom.

"Natter" in that context is the part of the content of a fanzine* that isn't fiction, articles, reviews or other sercon** material.

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* Obviously, a "magazine" published by a "fan", right? Term originated in SF fandom, but spread to a lot of other groups/fandoms - mysteries, music and others.

** Another "portmanteau word" (thank you, Lewis Carroll) - From "serious" and "constructive". Both "natter" and "sercon" may be used approvingly or derisively...
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by Atomic » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:47 am

Fairportfan, may I congratulate you for achieving another Forum First - a post that requires footnotes to be clearly understood! Well done!

Next up - Endnote citations of referenced works.

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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by jwhouk » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:02 am

We have a pun vault and PunPal(tm), and now footnotes.
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Re: Antifreeze 2012-09-21

Post by chibichibi01 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:56 am

Will we soon begin to need toenotes for the footnotes?
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