Work Within the Story Problem 2016-02-01

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This problem (and Nadette's answer) reminds me of a question recently presented on another forum:
So the guy is being interviewed for a job, and the big boss wants to see how good he is at problem solving. So he says, "One train is coming down the track at 60 miles-per-hour, and another train is coming down the same track in the opposite direction at 45 miles-per-hour, and they're only two miles apart. What would you do?"

OK. I'm curious.

Is there a correct response that solves the problem?
My reply is the most popular in the forum - and the second most popular is about an actual railroad collision test, essentially showing that I was right:
Without making any extra assumptions, my answer would have to be "move away from the track at my best speed until the noise stops, call 911 and report it, and look for survivors with due concern for my own continued safety".
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Sgt. Howard wrote: Leaders? Zombies- mindless, loathsome, walking contagion that never stops it's pursuit of living flesh. Used to be human. Has mental capacity of a cockroach. Leadership does not apply.
Ah, I see the problem. By "Leaders" I meant the zombies at the front of the pack. The ones physically in the lead. I suppose I should have said 'lead zombies" instead. Unless, of course you knew that and are just being facetious. Which is fine also.
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Warrl wrote:This problem (and Nadette's answer) reminds me of a question recently presented on another forum:
So the guy is being interviewed for a job, and the big boss wants to see how good he is at problem solving. So he says, "One train is coming down the track at 60 miles-per-hour, and another train is coming down the same track in the opposite direction at 45 miles-per-hour, and they're only two miles apart. What would you do?"

OK. I'm curious.

Is there a correct response that solves the problem?
My reply is the most popular in the forum - and the second most popular is about an actual railroad collision test, essentially showing that I was right:
Without making any extra assumptions, my answer would have to be "move away from the track at my best speed until the noise stops, call 911 and report it, and look for survivors with due concern for my own continued safety".
At those speeds there is a chance that the two trains might be able to stop, or at least reduce speeds to the point where the collision would be only slightly catastrophic, if warned in time. (Steel wheels on steel rails, maybe a mile to stop from 60 mph or so unless it's super-heavy.)
So, the President of the railroad is on an inspection tour, and his private train stops on a siding to take on water at an isolated water tank way out in the middle of the prairie. Near the tank, there's a division signal-maintainers' shack, where two guys live for six months at a time, scooting up and down the single-track mainline on a track speeder to maintain and repair signals and track turnouts for passing sidings.

One of the maintainers wander over to watch. (Six months out in the middle of nowhere before TV or the internet ... you get your amusement where you can.)

So the President introduces himself, and then says "Say - if you were out here, and you saw the westbound Daily Flier coming from over that way at seventy, and the eastbound Capital City Limited coming from over that way at sixty-five on this single-track line here, what would you do?"

Without hesitation the maintainer says "I'd yell for Charlie to get out here quick."

"Really? What could Charlie do?"

"Nothin'.

"But he ain't never seen a train wreck."
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AnotherFairportfan wrote:
Catawampus wrote:
Sgt. Howard wrote:. . .you get pelted by that brass at about five feet, I assure you it HURTS!!!
Especially if it gets in your collar and goes down into your shirt.
The M1 carbine throws its brass high and back. Firing prone can be an interesting experience for the left-handed, as the hot brass tends to land right in the small of the back...
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Good luck, once you run out of gas... :P
Connect it to a boiler that is fueled by burning zombie bodies.

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Catawampus wrote:Connect it to a boiler that is fueled by burning zombie bodies.
Reduce, reuse, recycle? :P
Catawampus wrote:Have you ever seen a flail-tank, for mine clearance?
Once. At the beginning of a Junk Yard War episode, before they had to build their own version and test it at the end. The winner was the one who managed to clear the most "mines" (some form of explosive paint cannisters... the pains splotches would serve to count how many were discovered on the beach where they finished the challenge.)
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lake_wrangler wrote:
Catawampus wrote:Connect it to a boiler that is fueled by burning zombie bodies.
Reduce, reuse, recycle? :P
Reanimate, redox, reuse, recycle.
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Take a long bo staff and put gladius-type blades at either end. Distance, cutting, but not so heavy due to short blade design. Or just at one end, so you don't cut any friendlies behind you and you know where the sharp, dangerous part is at all times.

Can be cobbled together with a sturdy, straightish stick and half of a sharpened lawn mower blade.
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My preferred anti-zombie weapon is a radio . . . "Bird Dog, this is Bravo Two-Six . . . I have a target . . ."

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FreeFlier wrote:My preferred anti-zombie weapon is a radio . . . "Bird Dog, this is Bravo Two-Six . . . I have a target . . ."

--FreeFlier
Sarge wrote: Bravo Base to Bravo Charlie...
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GlytchMeister wrote:
FreeFlier wrote:My preferred anti-zombie weapon is a radio . . . "Bird Dog, this is Bravo Two-Six . . . I have a target . . ."

--FreeFlier
Sarge wrote: Bravo Base to Bravo Charlie...
Able Fox Five to Able Fox Leader ... I got a target but ya gotta be patient."
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That sort of situation would either tighten certain sphincters or loosen them.
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GlytchMeister wrote:That sort of situation would either tighten certain sphincters or loosen them.
Wouldn't surprise me if it (or something of the sort) happened in reality somewhere and Mauldin heard about it...
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GlytchMeister wrote:Take a long bo staff and put gladius-type blades at either end. Distance, cutting, but not so heavy due to short blade design. Or just at one end, so you don't cut any friendlies behind you and you know where the sharp, dangerous part is at all times.

Can be cobbled together with a sturdy, straightish stick and half of a sharpened lawn mower blade.
In the book World War Z (which had little to do with the movie), my favorite melee weapon was wielded by a blind monk who tended a public garden. He used a sharpened shovel and aimed just below where the moans came from to decapitate them.
Since reading that, I aways know where the nearest shovel is...
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I'm pretty sure shovels are about as close to an actual battle axe one might find in an average Midwestern garage or shed.

I'm also pretty sure somebody makes those little folding trench/camp shovels, only sharper and pointier so they also serve ok in a fight.

There is, however, one possibly more effective seemingly-innocuous-tool: The Malaysian Battle Spatula.

But if it's decapitation you're after, might wanna investigate the kukri. I've heard it's rather handy at delimbing people... Necks aren't that different.
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GlytchMeister wrote:I'm pretty sure shovels are about as close to an actual battle axe one might find in an average Midwestern garage or shed.

I'm also pretty sure somebody makes those little folding trench/camp shovels, only sharper and pointier so they also serve ok in a fight.

There is, however, one possibly more effective seemingly-innocuous-tool: The Malaysian Battle Spatula.

But if it's decapitation you're after, might wanna investigate the kukri. I've heard it's rather handy at delimbing people... Necks aren't that different.
Um, don't you go to Bristol Ren Faire? Just get a real one... and if you're warped like my family, you'll get one for the Stepdad with a Latin inscription. :twisted: ...et nunc qui habet duas.
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GlytchMeister wrote:I'm pretty sure shovels are about as close to an actual battle axe one might find in an average Midwestern garage or shed.

I'm also pretty sure somebody makes those little folding trench/camp shovels, only sharper and pointier so they also serve ok in a fight.

There is, however, one possibly more effective seemingly-innocuous-tool: The Malaysian Battle Spatula.

But if it's decapitation you're after, might wanna investigate the kukri. I've heard it's rather handy at delimbing people... Necks aren't that different.
well good thing i dont live in the midwest then. mine is 440 cc surgical steel. nice two headed hand axe with matching bastard sword.
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Not having a real battle axe within reach, I put one of these in the garage.

It's also handy as a shovel, of all things...
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DinkyInky wrote:Um, don't you go to Bristol Ren Faire? Just get a real one... and if you're warped like my family, you'll get one for the Stepdad with a Latin inscription. :twisted: ...et nunc qui habet duas.
And now he has two?
Jabberwonky wrote:Not having a real battle axe within reach, I put one of these in the garage.

It's also handy as a shovel, of all things...
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oldmanmickey wrote:well good thing i dont live in the midwest then. mine is 440 cc surgical steel. nice two headed hand axe with matching bastard sword.
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FirehawkShadowchild wrote:BLAM ... Headshot ...

Although letting Zombies come this close is dangerous all in itself. Especially with a horde in the immediate area and her making noise so close to herself ...
Not the best solution if you don't want to end up as Zombie-Food(TM) :)
Also, no ear protection.
Just like the survivors slowly going deaf in 'The Walking Dead'.
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On the note of weaponized shovels, there's always the monk's spade. Easily one of my favorite staff weapons to wield.


And, rumor has it that that utility shovel was inspired by Dirge's shovel in Xombie.
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