Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

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Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by shadowinthelight » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:02 am

http://wapsisquare.com/comic/still-not-asking-for-it/

Sounds like that mom may have been jealous.
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Re: Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by Thor » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:05 am

Typo in panel 2. Should be "too suggestive" not "to suggestive".

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Post by Opus the Poet » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:30 am

I want to to a "Daww!" for Atsali, but really I can't. Intellectually I know this is a "daww" moment, but it just doesn't work for some reason.
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Post by Opus the Poet » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:32 am

Also there is a "t" missing, the "buts" should be "butts" hanging out.
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Re: Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by scantrontb » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:55 am

Magical Hairstyle changes from panel one to panels two and three. the cross-hatching depicting the braids is missing from panel one, and they're shorter too..
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Post by AnotherFairportfan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:01 am

scantrontb wrote:Magical Hairstyle changes from panel one to panels two and three. the cross-hatching depicting the braids is missing from panel one, and they're shorter too..
Different - but i still don't like 'em.
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Post by oldmanmickey » Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:19 am

looks good to me and its all better than i could even think of drawing
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Post by jayessell » Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:24 am

Have we seen the scene Atsali is describing?

Hot teens in skimpy bikinis next to Atsali practically in scuba gear
but without the tanks and mask?

Was that a Paranormal Pool Party?
(Pickle is still learning to look human in public.)

I would have thought THEY would be more tolerant of appearances.

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Post by oldmanmickey » Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:30 am

jayessell wrote:Have we seen the scene Atsali is describing?

Hot teens in skimpy bikinis next to Atsali practically in scuba gear
but without the tanks and mask?

Was that a Paranormal Pool Party?
(Pickle is still learning to look human in public.)

I would have thought THEY would be more tolerant of appearances.
More likely a case of sour grapes backed up with the line of thinking thats just a siren. everyone knows they only are interested in one thing and decent folk should not have to be exposed to such. Very similar to the way of thinking that prevales here in the deep south about religion. either a member of the local church or a godless heathen doomed to hell and they will be happy to arrange judgement for you.
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Post by zachariah » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:16 am

Yes that was unfair. The life guard should have referred the lady up channel for a decision. Hopefully the pool would have told the lady no.

But that lady sounds like the type who will makes things so loud and unpleasant just to get her way. The type who feels their belief is totally correct and takes steps to shove that belief onto everyone else. I've dealt with those types and it is a waste of time to use logic because they have none.

The problem is that Sali does not know how to deal with them. Next time she goes to that pool she needs to take Kathy along. Let that mom try and make her point to Kathy and then step back out of the line of fire.
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Re: Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by Nimrod » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:27 am

This would have been a much stronger strip had her anecdote been drawn, thereby making it more of a third person rendition of the events and not simply her interpretation of others. That is the basic problem with how this whole recent topic is being depicted. Atsali is making as many assumptions about others as they may be doing about her.

The flaw in what Paul is trying to get at is he is using the one character that is the most exception to the norm.

It does not matter how Atsali is dressed, the circumstances, or event the other characters involved. She has been made (drawn) that way. She sits at the extreme edge of the physical range in the Wapsi-verse. Yes, the message is that it is wrong to assume something about others based wholly on physical appearance - however the wrong messenger is being used.

Do not be surprised when you put up something that looks like an extreme version of X that the majority of people will think that it is X.

The fault lies with Atsali thinking and assuming that people will and should know she is a Y and not an X automatically. It is up to her to prove the exception because she is already one herself.

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Post by Radical_Knight » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:47 am

Personally, I think Aunt Jin needs to watch her Potty-Mouth around teenagers... Role-Model?
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Post by captnq » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:23 am

Unfortunately, Jin is giving the wrong message.

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Post by Yamara » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:01 am

Twitter holds no power here, but this popped up this morning and it seemed apropos:

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Post by meisdadoo » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:34 am

AnotherFairportfan wrote:
scantrontb wrote:Magical Hairstyle changes from panel one to panels two and three. the cross-hatching depicting the braids is missing from panel one, and they're shorter too..
Different - but i still don't like 'em.
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Re: Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by kingklash » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:44 am

I don't know about worse, but it could have been different at the pool. Think on what happened when her school's Queen Bee found out who Atsali's aunt was. Or even Cricket's reaction! If it was a Paranormal Swim Day, and the folk realized who the Gilchrist Girls (new show this fall?) were, all that sucking up would have drained the joint in no time flat.

Right now it's not that certain readers complain about Atsali coming off as a "Fetish" character, it's Atsali worried about coming off as a "fetish" character. Kind of Marvel Mutant style. A kid hits puberty and in several cases, WHAM!, looks like a walking junk pile than can use their big toe as a universal remote or something. To use "Wild Cards" terminology, she drew an Ace instead of a Joker. (Bird Mode notwithstanding) The "Beautiful Human" halves of both parents took precedence, and not a combo of Demon/Large sentient predator bird. Try going to the pool like that.

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Re: Still Not Asking For Sh*t 2015-03-27

Post by Thor » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:45 am

Radical_Knight wrote:Personally, I think Aunt Jin needs to watch her Potty-Mouth around teenagers... Role-Model?
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As far as I can tell, the only one who seems to give a shit about whether Atsali swears is Atsali, and she restrains herself far more consistently than any teenager I have ever met, ever.

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Post by Yamara » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:57 am

Thor wrote:As far as I can tell, the only one who seems to give a shit about whether Atsali swears is Atsali, and she restrains herself far more consistently than any teenager I have ever met, ever.
Considering the literal meaning of most of those words, and Atsali's power of Do What My Lyrics Command, I'd say that's her being consistent.

Since Tartarus is real, even phrases like "damn it" and "go to hell" are not innocuous if she were to sing them.
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Post by TazManiac » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:13 pm

Yamara wrote:Twitter holds no power here, but this popped up this morning and it seemed apropos:
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Aaaaand she's holding a Fish in her hand....

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Re: Still Not Asking For It 2015-03-27

Post by Gyrrakavian » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:45 pm

zachariah wrote:Yes that was unfair. The life guard should have referred the lady up channel for a decision. Hopefully the pool would have told the lady no.

But that lady sounds like the type who will makes things so loud and unpleasant just to get her way. The type who feels their belief is totally correct and takes steps to shove that belief onto everyone else. I've dealt with those types and it is a waste of time to use logic because they have none.

The problem is that Sali does not know how to deal with them. Next time she goes to that pool she needs to take Kathy along. Let that mom try and make her point to Kathy and then step back out of the line of fire.
Or Aunt Monica or Aunt Shelly.

If it were a paranormal pool, they'd likely be recognized and might volunteer to help that lady pull her head out of her arse.
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