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Re: Character Index

Post by louisxiv » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:32 pm

Update: the Index page now covers 3492 pages of the main comic*, with 1272 tags of people, places and things for your search and selection pleasure.

* including tomorrow’s page (at time of this post) but no eBay- or Patreon-only material.

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Re: Character Index

Post by Gyrrakavian » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:51 am

I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
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Re: Character Index

Post by FreeFlier » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:20 am

Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.
That sounds reasonable, thought it should be noted as unconfirmed.
Gyrrakavian wrote:Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
They wouldn't have to . . . they could just be aligned into two groups that call themselves that.

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Re: Character Index

Post by lake_wrangler » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:56 am

FreeFlier wrote:
Gyrrakavian wrote:Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
They wouldn't have to . . . they could just be aligned into two groups that call themselves that.

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Although that could explain the seasons' cruel attacks on Monica... :P

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Re: Character Index

Post by Dave » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:39 pm

Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
As I recall, the Seelie and Unseelie Courts (in our world's mythologies) were not just summer/winter, but represented a whole light/dark duality - both in appearance (fair-skinned vs. swarthy, beautiful vs. bestial) and in behavior (the Unseelie were more often explicitly malicious towards humanity). The Unseelie were where the monsters under the bed, and the things that go bump in the night, tended to hang out.

That's not to say that the Seelie were safe for humans to be around. Even at their best they were often depicted as imperious, self-absorbed, and rather uncaring as to the harm that their interactions with humans might cause, and very prone to take offense at any slight... and, of course, extremely powerful. They were often referred to as the Fair Folk, the Good Neighbors, and other positive terms like that... at least in part as an explicit show of respect in order to avoid accidentally offending them and bringing down their wrath.

Anybody who hasn't yet read "War For The Oaks" really should. Emma Bull did a great job of depicting the relationship between the Seelie and Unseelie Courts, and humans, in a modern setting. It's one of the two best "first fantasy novels" from a new author that I've ever read.

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Re: Character Index

Post by FreeFlier » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:53 pm

Dave wrote:
Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
As I recall, the Seelie and Unseelie Courts (in our world's mythologies) were not just summer/winter, but represented a whole light/dark duality - both in appearance (fair-skinned vs. swarthy, beautiful vs. bestial) and in behavior (the Unseelie were more often explicitly malicious towards humanity). The Unseelie were where the monsters under the bed, and the things that go bump in the night, tended to hang out.

That's not to say that the Seelie were safe for humans to be around. Even at their best they were often depicted as imperious, self-absorbed, and rather uncaring as to the harm that their interactions with humans might cause, and very prone to take offense at any slight... and, of course, extremely powerful. They were often referred to as the Fair Folk, the Good Neighbors, and other positive terms like that... at least in part as an explicit show of respect in order to avoid accidentally offending them and bringing down their wrath.

Anybody who hasn't yet read "War For The Oaks" really should. Emma Bull did a great job of depicting the relationship between the Seelie and Unseelie Courts, and humans, in a modern setting. It's one of the two best "first fantasy novels" from a new author that I've ever read.
Mercedes Lackey's SERRAted Edge novels are also good . . .

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Post by louisxiv » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:00 pm

Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
Page ref?

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Re: Character Index

Post by louisxiv » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:11 pm

FreeFlier wrote:
Dave wrote:
Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
As I recall, the Seelie and Unseelie Courts (in our world's mythologies) were not just summer/winter, but represented a whole light/dark duality - both in appearance (fair-skinned vs. swarthy, beautiful vs. bestial) and in behavior (the Unseelie were more often explicitly malicious towards humanity). The Unseelie were where the monsters under the bed, and the things that go bump in the night, tended to hang out.

That's not to say that the Seelie were safe for humans to be around. Even at their best they were often depicted as imperious, self-absorbed, and rather uncaring as to the harm that their interactions with humans might cause, and very prone to take offense at any slight... and, of course, extremely powerful. They were often referred to as the Fair Folk, the Good Neighbors, and other positive terms like that... at least in part as an explicit show of respect in order to avoid accidentally offending them and bringing down their wrath.

Anybody who hasn't yet read "War For The Oaks" really should. Emma Bull did a great job of depicting the relationship between the Seelie and Unseelie Courts, and humans, in a modern setting. It's one of the two best "first fantasy novels" from a new author that I've ever read.
Mercedes Lackey's SERRAted Edge novels are also good . . .

--FreeFlier
Two personal favourite books featuring Elves and their courts:
- Terry Pratchett’s Lords and Ladies – fantasy disguised as slapstick, and
- Charles Stross’s The Nightmare Stacks – fantasy disguised as techno-thriller

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Post by Dave » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:12 pm

louisxiv wrote:
Gyrrakavian wrote:Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.
Page ref?
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/deserved-it-2/

However... in the following strip, Cricket told Atsali that this wasn't the true story. The Fae that Pickle had killed wasn't an Unseelie, it was one of her father's royal guards.

So, we don't really know whether the "Unseelie" reference is to a clan which really does exist among the Wapsiverse Fae, or whether it's just something legendary that Cricket was referring to in order to make Pickle feel less-bad.

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Re: Character Index

Post by lake_wrangler » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:31 pm

louisxiv wrote:
Gyrrakavian wrote:I've found a tidbit to add to Calista's entry.

The terms 'Seelie' and 'Unseelie' refer to the two fey courts; summer and winter (respectively). Since Cricket was talking about the Unseelie clan fey as though they were rivals, I think it's safe to say that she's a princess of the Court of Summer.

Though, we still don't know if the fey queens of summer and winter actually cause those seasons in the Wapsiverse.
Page ref?
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/deserved-it-2/

Admittedly, she was lying about their true identity, inasmuch as they were actually some of the royal guards, but her speech clearly identifies herself as not being an unseelie, and therefore being part of the seelie.

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Re: Character Index

Post by AmriloJim » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:12 pm

On FB, Rob Mey wrote:Hiya Paul...sorry to ask what may be a silly question... Timothy...what "is" he? Para specific name. Thanks! If this was mentioned before, apologies.
Pablo wrote:Timothy is a therianthrope. =) Basically a werewolf in the Wapsi Square universe.

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Re: Character Index

Post by louisxiv » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:33 pm

AmriloJim wrote:
On FB, Rob Mey wrote:Hiya Paul...sorry to ask what may be a silly question... Timothy...what "is" he? Para specific name. Thanks! If this was mentioned before, apologies.
Pablo wrote:Timothy is a therianthrope. =) Basically a werewolf in the Wapsi Square universe.
Ta!

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Re: Character Index

Post by FreeFlier » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:23 pm

AmriloJim wrote:
On FB, Rob Mey wrote:Hiya Paul...sorry to ask what may be a silly question... Timothy...what "is" he? Para specific name. Thanks! If this was mentioned before, apologies.
Pablo wrote:Timothy is a therianthrope. =) Basically a werewolf in the Wapsi Square universe.
louisxiv wrote:Ta!
:?

That basically means animal-form human . . . it doesn't nail down what the animal species is . . . From therios meaning approximately animal, and anthropos meaning man, IIRC.

If he was specifically a wolf, he would be a lycanthrope.

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Post by Dave » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:56 pm

FreeFlier wrote:That basically means animal-form human . . . it doesn't nail down what the animal species is . . . From therios meaning approximately animal, and anthropos meaning man, IIRC.

If he was specifically a wolf, he would be a lycanthrope.
His tail is probably too shaggy for him to be a were-thylacine. Rather a pity...

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Re: Character Index

Post by TazManiac » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:46 pm

Mr. Paul may well be holding out a very specific (therefore locking it down past all ambiguity) answer, at least for now, for a reason...

Oh, and Well Done Mr. Looey-da-14th!, well done indeed.

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Post by FreeFlier » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:11 am

TazManiac wrote:Mr. Paul may well be holding out a very specific (therefore locking it down past all ambiguity) answer, at least for now, for a reason... . . .
That's what I think too . . . a very specific non-answer, for now.

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Re: Character Index

Post by louisxiv » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:12 am

Update: the Wapsi Square index page currently covers 3534 pages of the main comic, with 1288 tags of people, places and things for your search and selection pleasure.

After a bit of thought the seelie / unseelie court point is well argued, but still speculative so I've left that out until confirmed in-comic.

Thanks to AmrilloJim for the Tim classification from Pablo.

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Re: Character Index

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:53 pm

Someone, somewhere (not me - i don't draw that good) is already working on the next panel after this, and if it isn't already on Paheal.net, it will be...
He had done a good job of covering his tracks, but that was to be expected. After all, one does not conspire to ruin a House and murder a queen and then just stand there waving and waiting patiently for retribution.

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Post by AnotherFairportfan » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:57 pm

Does anyone else think Monica did that on purpose?
He had done a good job of covering his tracks, but that was to be expected. After all, one does not conspire to ruin a House and murder a queen and then just stand there waving and waiting patiently for retribution.

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Re: Character Index

Post by Alkarii » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:17 pm

AnotherFairportfan wrote:Does anyone else think Monica did that on purpose?
I'd have done the same thing. Besides, the two were bound to meet, anyway.
Does it ever occur to anyone else that maybe funhouses would not be a good place to live?

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