Deal With It 2014-11-24

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Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by jwhouk » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:09 am

I KNEW Phix would be involved in this.
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by lake_wrangler » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:18 am

Do you mean involved with the mess with Kevin? If so, I would disagree: this conversation is about Calista, not Kevin. Kevin is brought up merely as an example of why she thinks she is not a good role model for Calista, not to actually discuss her love live.

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by jwhouk » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:19 am

No, I knew Phix would have a comment on this.

And as for the Kevin thing? I have my suspicions w/r/t Phix...

I also suspect that Phix maybe under some... undue pressure?... to deal with Calista.
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by lake_wrangler » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:21 am

Ah. So by "this", you meant the very conversation about Monica's suitability as a mentor. In that case, just pretend I didn't say anything...

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by jwhouk » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:26 am

No, no, it's all good.

Now, we get a week or so of moping Monica dealing with Cricket, then a brief sojourn back to GHS, and then... Bud and Kevin are on their FIRST DATE???
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:31 am

Tough love, huh?
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by Dave » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:39 am

AnotherFairportfan wrote:Tough love, huh?
Yup. And a message about adulthood (paranormal or otherwise) - Things Out There In The World don't just go away, even when you desperately want a time-out.

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Post by shadowinthelight » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:40 am

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by Boxilar » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:41 am

AnotherFairportfan wrote:Tough love, huh?
Quoth the author on Facebook;
"Someone who has enough bad decisions to last 10k of Monica's lifetimes who just wants her to do her fucking job."

Monica is holding a pity party for herself and Phix is frankly sick of it. Monica is mopey about having broken Kevin's heart. Phix is tring to live down having eaten people who didn't deserve it. It's a matter of perspective, but from where Phix is standing, Monica's problems seem trivial by comparison to what she's been through, and what the possible consequences would be to everyone involved if Monica fails with Calista.

When Monica was a vanilla mortal with a few special powers, Phix treated her with kid gloves, as she would have a child. She now sees Monica as a contemporary, as an adult in the supernatural community, which is why she is getting frustrated that Monica won't accept her role and responsibility, put on her Big Girl Pants, and suck it up.

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by AnotherFairportfan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:05 am

Dave wrote:
AnotherFairportfan wrote:Tough love, huh?
Yup. And a message about adulthood (paranormal or otherwise) - Things Out There In The World don't just go away, even when you desperately want a time-out.

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by Jay-Em » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:24 am

Boxilar wrote:
AnotherFairportfan wrote:Tough love, huh?
Quoth the author on Facebook;
"Someone who has enough bad decisions to last 10k of Monica's lifetimes who just wants her to do her fucking job."

Monica is holding a pity party for herself and Phix is frankly sick of it. Monica is mopey about having broken Kevin's heart. Phix is tring to live down having eaten people who didn't deserve it. It's a matter of perspective, but from where Phix is standing, Monica's problems seem trivial by comparison to what she's been through, and what the possible consequences would be to everyone involved if Monica fails with Calista.

When Monica was a vanilla mortal with a few special powers, Phix treated her with kid gloves, as she would have a child. She now sees Monica as a contemporary, as an adult in the supernatural community, which is why she is getting frustrated that Monica won't accept her role and responsibility, put on her Big Girl Pants, and suck it up.
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Yup. Spot-on afa i am concerned. Phix is acutely aware of te results of bad decisions. Heck, she made herself a recluse in punishment, so Monica's self-indulgent whining (because that's what it is) is getting on her nerves, bad.

I also think Phix has a good idea why M and Calista should work together. Calista has a few things to teach Monica. Being an all-powerful Fae, and all (see the connection..)
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by DilyV » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:28 am

FWIW, here's my two cents...

I think Monica was speaking more generally about all of it... Cricket, Jet, Kevin... and it appears that Phix was concentrating solely on the problem with Cricket. If you ask me, Monica oughta stand up and give Phix a rap on the beak... bring her down a notch or two. Or Three. As soon as she has Phix's attention, tell her in forceful terms that she feels she's been thrown in the deep end without being taught how to swim so to speak. I think all Monica is looking for is some guidance on how to deal with this mess. Not just Cricket, but all of it. Even though time has passed since realizing who and what she was, I'm not so sure she's really got a handle on exactly what her limitations are. As powerful as she knows she is, I don't blame her for wanting someone to help her out with a little information and maybe some training. She's been thrown way out of her comfort zone. Everything she's thought she was is being challenged. She's an omnipotent creature inside of a human shell forced to deal with things she isn't prepared to deal with. Parenting (cricket), Loss (Kevin) and a budding bisexuality (at least) with Jet. Up to this point (well, beginning with the reappearance of Jet at Mucho Mocha), Monica never believed she swung that way. Sure, we saw Mon and Shelly joke around a few times about it but nothing ever so serious. All of her self imposed notions about herself are being bent, broken, spindled and mutilated and she's scared shitless over it. She needs Phix's guidance to teach her how to deal and her assurance that she DOES have it within herself to produce a good outcome.
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by kingklash » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:58 am

Phix knows M can do the job, it's just getting her to do the job, and learn a few things about herself, that's the difficult bit.

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by illiad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:15 am

M needs a therapist, STAT!! :P

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by oldmanmickey » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:23 am

I been waiting for her to go to Phix for advice. Trying once again to weasel out of being a mentor. I am sure seeing a lot of my old DI in Phix, he was a great therapist, lol. "Airman are we having a bad day? Do you miss your mama son? Did you come 2000 miles just to piss me off? Well buttercup thats what you did. Now drop and give me 20! You just thought you were having a bad day before!"
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by illiad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:48 am

well 'army drill' wont work that well on civilians... she needs more positive female input....
or maybe Phix will turn round, thinking "gawd I'm being as bad as my tormentors, I should help the poor girl... :roll:

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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by jwhouk » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:13 am

Well, it's not like Phix couldn't just keep wiping her face off, watch her regenerate, then do the exact same thing again - and again, and again, and again...

You know, I actually wonder something: if Phix were to "sphinx" on her (see Medeia), would that be the only way to "end" Monica? Or would M end up giving her the worst case of indigestion she's ever had?
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by MerchManDan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:19 am

Cripes, Phix, no need to bite the woman's head off! (not as if doing so would be more than a temporary inconvenience, but still)
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by zachariah » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:24 am

DilyV wrote:FWIW, here's my two cents...

I think Monica was speaking more generally about all of it... Cricket, Jet, Kevin... and it appears that Phix was concentrating solely on the problem with Cricket. If you ask me, Monica oughta stand up and give Phix a rap on the beak... bring her down a notch or two. Or Three.
Last time she tried that Phix killed her. She came back but being dead hurts.
As soon as she has Phix's attention, tell her in forceful terms that she feels she's been thrown in the deep end without being taught how to swim so to speak. I think all Monica is looking for is some guidance on how to deal with this mess. Not just Cricket, but all of it. Even though time has passed since realizing who and what she was, I'm not so sure she's really got a handle on exactly what her limitations are. As powerful as she knows she is, I don't blame her for wanting someone to help her out with a little information and maybe some training. She's been thrown way out of her comfort zone. Everything she's thought she was is being challenged. She's an omnipotent creature inside of a human shell forced to deal with things she isn't prepared to deal with. Parenting (cricket), Loss (Kevin) and a budding bisexuality (at least) with Jet. Up to this point (well, beginning with the reappearance of Jet at Mucho Mocha), Monica never believed she swung that way. Sure, we saw Mon and Shelly joke around a few times about it but nothing ever so serious. All of her self imposed notions about herself are being bent, broken, spindled and mutilated and she's scared shitless over it. She needs Phix's guidance to teach her how to deal and her assurance that she DOES have it within herself to produce a good outcome.
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This is not a someone looking for guidance. It's a whinny justification to get out of doing a job. Rather than trying to find a way to deal with Cricket she grabbed the current mess of her personal life and tried to use it as an excuse to get out of helping cricket. Of course she was conned into the job in the first place, but she did accept it in the end. Comparing Phix to a DI is a pretty good one. Phix is not going to let Monica cop out on the job. Nor cut her any slack just because Monica is having a bad day.
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Re: Deal With It 2014-11-24

Post by zachariah » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:29 am

Boxilar wrote:
AnotherFairportfan wrote:Tough love, huh?
Quoth the author on Facebook;

what the possible consequences would be to everyone involved if Monica fails with Calista.
I wonder why we think there will be world shaking problems for everyone if Cricket does not get help. Phix wanted her to get help because Cricket was showing signs of becoming a very unusual Fae who showed signs of compassion and caring. This is an attempt to help her become a kinder, gentler Fae when she eventually takes the throne. If it fails then cricket becomes just like the other fae. People have been dealing with fae a long time so Cricket won't be a spectacularly bad problem to deal with, just the usual fae issues.
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