DilyV wrote:Wow... While I think Lily is bent on smashing the crystal, I find myself thinking Bud is going to pop back in and stop her... I honestly hope not. Thup needs to suffer... if for no other reason than to pay for all those children's lives she so callously snuffed out.
On the other hand, Maybe Bud could gauge her throw to give the crystal enough escape velocity, but limit the speed of transit to hundreds of years enroute to a fiery end in the sun. The Klingons had it only half right. Revenge is a dish that is best served cold. I suggest that revenge is a dish that is best served cold then heated to plasma. Imagine Centuries of freezing cold to ruminate about your crimes against innocents all the while knowing that you will end up in the sun...
Or maybe she could throw her away from the sun...towards Jupiter or Pluto or something.
That would be good too...and certainly would put her far out of reach of humanity (though I don't know how non-human-based supernaturals would be affected by distance and space).
zachariah wrote:There has to be a better end to this story than this! To many loose ends. While the action is over where is the reveal and tieing up loose ends?? Come on finish the story correctly.
Did you know? This is the story that never ends...Yes it goes on and on my friend...Some guy just started telling it not knowing what it was...And now he'll keep on telling it forever just because...
Oh...and I think the page title is more of a reference to the finality of Thup's situation (kind of like when someone telling a story or answering a question wants to emphasize that there really isn't anything more to tell on that particular point). She doesn't get an out like the Etheitians did. She's locked away forever. Period. End of story.
KnightDelight wrote:It's one thing to confine her, quite another to take pleasure in her suffering. While it's true she caused untold death and suffering herself, all those who were involved are now dead and their souls free. IMHO, no one deserves eternal punishment, ever.
Concurred. What is
Seemingly, she's a human soul that persisted after the destruction of Lanthis, and made a deal with the post-Chimera Brandi. That's a lot of suffering already. The Etheithians were said by Atsali to have desired to create an army of golems-- Lanthian-style evil, which Brandi was eager to stop, but the nu gui was able
to. "Oft evil will evil mar."
Oooo...very good point and interesting perspective on things. It's easy for us to be angry with/hate Thup, but if you think of her more as a wronged being with unresolved issues, it's a lot harder to be excited about her being eternally punished. I mean, I'm not a fan of the victim mentality, but I also don't know enough about Nü Guis to be able to say "she should have known better" or "she should have used that experience as a learning opportunity." It's very likely that once she became a Nü Gui, she no longer had the ability
to truly resolve her issues and grow into a "better person" due to the whole being dead thing (and potentially being locked into the emotional maturity and/or feelings associated with her death). If there aren't any growth or change options available for a being, is it right to punish it for what it is? I mean, yes...something that manipulative and mean-spirited should be kept as far away from people as possible, but I'm not so sure that it should be tortured or "punished" (beyond being trapped in a way that prevents it from acting). What good would it do other than to give someone else the (IMO twisted) pleasure of knowing she's suffering? So yeah...maybe I'll change my mind about tossing her into space...though that's better than shattering her...
eee wrote:There's also another problem. You seem to be assuming the Na Gui is just a misguided soul. In the Wapsiverse, it appears to be a force dedicated to evil and harming others. She a rabid beast who CAN'T stop biting others. Released after a billion billion years she'll STILL try to inflict pain on those she regards as enemies. Eternal imprisonment until the end of time would appear to be the only option...
Yes...but the mention Lily made of the pain that Thup would experience if the crystal was shattered...the "endless painful suffering"...maybe she was only suggesting that being locked away is painful suffering for Thup (and being shattered would multiply that experience), but it sounded like being shattered would hurt forever in a different way than just being locked away with awareness. Like I said, I'm all for her being imprisoned where she can't hurt anyone anymore, but I don't see the point in causing any further torment to a being who wasn't responsible for what she became and doesn't seem to have the ability to be anything other than what she is. She may not be a "misguided soul," but she is
the baby that Brandi accidentally killed (according to Bud).
So yeah...today's page is very good and brings up a lot of interesting moral questions.