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A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:35 am
by Fairportfan
Okay.

Bud Knows Something

And we don't

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:36 am
by themadkansan
Okay, are we straight on our posting now? :)

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:37 am
by Sphinx-Napped
anyone have any idea what a nu gui is i never heard of it

bud saying that brandi made deal with the dead baby ??
so paul you set us up for big surpise in how to fix brandi, but now we are learning that it wasn't demons that she supposedly made a deal with.. i cant wait to see what it is

and thank you for the llink that explain what it is that kinda makes sense, but i dont understand what the deal was kill everyone that forced you to kill me?

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:37 am
by MerchManDan
Yup. A quick 'net search confirms it: This is not a good deal. :?

themadkansan wrote:Okay, are we straight on our posting now? :)
Heh, yeah. That was pretty funny. :lol:

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:38 am
by bdgoodfriend
I thought the Nu Gui was Windows 8?

(puts crystal tablet in pun jar) :mrgreen:

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:40 am
by Fairportfan
bdgoodfriend wrote:I thought the Nu Gui was Windows 8?

(puts crystal tablet in pun jar) :mrgreen:
The Nü Gui is much prettier and not nearly as malicious.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:42 am
by Fairportfan
Based on the bottom panel, Katharine is thinking "A Nü Gui? Oh, shit!"

And Atsali is thinking " A Nü Gui? A what?"

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:42 am
by themadkansan
MerchManDan wrote:Yup. A quick 'net search confirms it: This is not a good deal. :?

themadkansan wrote:Okay, are we straight on our posting now? :)
Heh, yeah. That was pretty funny. :lol:

gragh. Googlebroke. is there a specific link to it? (sry, but I refuse to let any Googlescript run on my machine - tired of cleaning up the aftermath)

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:43 am
by shadowinthelight
A little different from Wikipedia's definition but close enough.
bdgoodfriend wrote:I thought the Nu Gui was Windows 8?
That would be a particularly evil entity to make a deal with.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:48 am
by Stigmartyr762
Sphinx-Napped wrote:anyone have any idea what a nu gui is i never heard of it

bud saying that brandi made deal with the dead baby if so??

there no mention of what a nu gui s i know i read the archive while waiting for the new page

so paul you set us up for big surpise in how to fix brandi, but now we are learning that it wasn't demons that she supposedly made a deal with.. i cant wait to see what it is

Nü gui (Chinese: 女鬼; pinyin: nǚ guǐ; literally "female ghost") is a vengeful female ghost with long hair in a white dress. In folklore, this ghost is the spirit of a woman who committed suicide while wearing a red dress. Usually, she met with some injustice when she was alive, such as being wronged or sexually abused. She returns to take her revenge. A tabloid story tells of a funeral ceremony where family members of a murder victim dress her in red, hoping that her spirit will return to take revenge on her murderer. In traditional folklore, the colour red symbolises anger and vengeance in the context of ghosts. On the other hand, some ancient folk tales tell of beautiful female ghosts who seduce men and suck their yang essence or sometimes kill them. This type of female ghost is likened to the Succubus. Paradoxically, the male counterpart of a nü gui, a nan gui (Chinese: 男鬼; pinyin: nán guǐ; literally "male ghost"), is rarely depicted.

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Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:48 am
by Atomic
In short, a Vengeful Ghost.

Then again, what would a vengeful ghost of a baby want? Cuddles and milk? While watching you burn??

Something is off -- way off. I don't think this is gaslighting or a retcon. I think Bud is on her way to realizing Brandi was duped by some force that the demons aren't (yet) aware of. Perhaps a disgruntled competitor to the Chimera creation team?

Place your bets...

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:52 am
by Sphinx-Napped
Stigmartyr762 wrote:
Sphinx-Napped wrote:anyone have any idea what a nu gui is i never heard of it

bud saying that brandi made deal with the dead baby if so??

there no mention of what a nu gui s i know i read the archive while waiting for the new page

so paul you set us up for big surpise in how to fix brandi, but now we are learning that it wasn't demons that she supposedly made a deal with.. i cant wait to see what it is

Nü gui (Chinese: 女鬼; pinyin: nǚ guǐ; literally "female ghost") is a vengeful female ghost with long hair in a white dress. In folklore, this ghost is the spirit of a woman who committed suicide while wearing a red dress. Usually, she met with some injustice when she was alive, such as being wronged or sexually abused. She returns to take her revenge. A tabloid story tells of a funeral ceremony where family members of a murder victim dress her in red, hoping that her spirit will return to take revenge on her murderer. In traditional folklore, the colour red symbolises anger and vengeance in the context of ghosts. On the other hand, some ancient folk tales tell of beautiful female ghosts who seduce men and suck their yang essence or sometimes kill them. This type of female ghost is likened to the Succubus. Paradoxically, the male counterpart of a nü gui, a nan gui (Chinese: 男鬼; pinyin: nán guǐ; literally "male ghost"), is rarely depicted.

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thanks
but still wondering what was the deal that she thought she made with demons

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:53 am
by Boxilar
Even Confucius said, "Respect ghosts and gods, but keep away from them."

Not a demon, a ghost of a newly dead child. This is where the Jaguar Girl comes in, me thinks, to get Brandi's mind back together, or, more accurately, shut down its time share aspect.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:59 am
by Mark N
Boxilar wrote:Even Confucius said, "Respect ghosts and gods, but keep away from them."

Not a demon, a ghost of a newly dead child. This is where the Jaguar Girl comes in, me thinks, to get Brandi's mind back together, or, more accurately, shut down its time share aspect.
I would think that it is likely that the spirit lied to Brandi and it was not the baby but an adult Succubus (which is one of the definitions of a Nü Gui).

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:06 am
by pcj70
But isn't Katherine the baby(s)? Then who is the nu gui and/or Katherine? Are not nu gui are vengeful female Chinese ghosts..... or is it a Succubus? Please make room for me in confusion corner.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:10 am
by shadowinthelight
pcj70 wrote:But isn't Katherine the baby(s)?
No. Bud is talking about when Brandi swung a pole at the cowardly Lanthian priest who picked up a baby and used it as a shield. The pole hit the baby and killed it.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:15 am
by Fairportfan
"...like a silk bag filled with glass tubes..."

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:15 am
by zachariah
Boxilar wrote:Even Confucius said, "Respect ghosts and gods, but keep away from them."

Not a demon, a ghost of a newly dead child. This is where the Jaguar Girl comes in, me thinks, to get Brandi's mind back together, or, more accurately, shut down its time share aspect.
Why are we assuming the Nu Gui is what Brandi actually made a deal with?

Brandi did not kill the baby, it died during Brandi's efforts to protect the creche when the Lantans came after her! So it was an accident, not of deliberate purpose. If anyone is to blame it is the Lantan priests, not Brandi. I suspect the deal is not between the Nu Gui and Brandi but Brandi swearing vengeance on the Lantans for causing her to kill the baby. That was the split point for Brandi's personality. So the SDO Brandi is the Nu Gui and is carrying out her vengeance. She became the murdered baby and the ghost to avenge it.

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:16 am
by My2Cents
Stigmartyr762 wrote:Nü gui (Chinese: 女鬼; pinyin: nǚ guǐ; literally "female ghost") is a vengeful female ghost with long hair in a white dress. In folklore, this ghost is the spirit of a woman who committed suicide while wearing a red dress. Usually, she met with some injustice when she was alive, such as being wronged or sexually abused. She returns to take her revenge. A tabloid story tells of a funeral ceremony where family members of a murder victim dress her in red, hoping that her spirit will return to take revenge on her murderer. In traditional folklore, the colour red symbolises anger and vengeance in the context of ghosts. On the other hand, some ancient folk tales tell of beautiful female ghosts who seduce men and suck their yang essence or sometimes kill them. This type of female ghost is likened to the Succubus. Paradoxically, the male counterpart of a nü gui, a nan gui (Chinese: 男鬼; pinyin: nán guǐ; literally "male ghost"), is rarely depicted.
The problem I have with this is that Bud is European and Brandi is African. Isn’t there an equivalent in either of those 2 cultures?

Re: A Nü Gui Deal 2013-06-14

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:23 am
by MerchManDan
zachariah wrote:Why are we assuming the Nu Gui is what Brandi actually made a deal with?
...because Bud just told us that. :|
My2Cents wrote:
Stigmartyr762 wrote:Nü gui (Chinese: 女鬼; pinyin: nǚ guǐ; literally "female ghost") is a vengeful female ghost with long hair in a white dress.
The problem I have with this is that Bud is European and Brandi is African. Isn’t there an equivalent in either of those 2 cultures?
There probably is. It's a bit curious that Bud would choose the Chinese term, though.